How does this idiot have any money?
Step 1: Start with lots of money
Step 2: Find a bunch of other rich idiots willing to invest their money.
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I gave him lots of money when he showed off Teslas all-electric sports car, pitched the model S sedan, and laid out the plan for solar roof tiles, and home battery storage.
It was a beautiful moment when I saw a billionaire putting their money against fossil fuels.
When he was struggling to get model 3 production rolling, I gave him lots more money.
Then he started shitting on trans folks and I started divesting, but still wanted Tesla to succeed.
Then he essentially bought twitter with that money I gave him to develop Tesla and reports of working conditions started coming out so I divested more… But I held hope Tesla board would kick him out and I could put that money back.
Then he got into politics and Tesla board voted to give Elon tens of billions and I left all the way.
Fucking shame.
There was a moment when Tesla was investing tens of billions into actual electrification research and developing compelling projects and making lots of money because of it.
Every once in a while he blackmails the Tesla board into giving him a shit ton of money. Besides that he doesn’t have much, his wealth is in stocks, mostly Tesla, because his other companies aren’t publicly traded. What rich people do to actually get money is they get a loan backed by their stocks, and then never really paying it back. Tesla is extremely overvalued, but because of that he can just borrow as much money as he wants.
Elon Musk is a Nazi
He Should be stripped of his security clearance and incarcerated immediately.
why does he have it in the first place? he is just a rich psychopath
Because the Republican party has become the party of rich psychopaths
He’s only got security clearance because he’s a Nazi. A normal person would have been denied it.
At least the costumes can be sold for Halloween in Tesla’s forthcoming liquidation sale, unlike their cars that nobody wants.
Spirit Halloween is gonna be lit in a few years!
They are making robots that are confirmed to not do anything on their own? The ones he has been scamming people and lying over using human remote operators?
The robots are going to finish that tunnel in California. They will carry your car through the tunnel, as always promised. They just need a little funding.
They’re not making the car that got them started and popular? A bold move.
46% earnings drop in Tesla, they’re pivoting cause no one wants musks cars anymore.
They’ve blown public trust, so now they’re pivoting to businessmen with no morals.
I wonder if the 3 is selling better. Maybe they will put more effort in to it.
Maybe they shouldn’t have made that shit truck.
It’s cheaper. It’s almost definitely a better seller. The S was supposed to be a luxury car. It’s bigger, has air suspension, etc. But most people don’t want to pay a premium for stuff like that.
Fascist scammer
This dude needs to stop getting high for, like, twenty minutes.
Those robots are complete vaporware. I would predict we’re about to see whole lot of robot hype video clips on twitter and tiktok very soon. We’re going to see his fake “robot” playing soccer, making breakfast, juggling, and whatever. I’m sure they’ll be all ai generated. There will be paid tesla influencers who already bought cybertruck hyping up this non existent robots very soon. Elon will tout millions of robots sold but in reality they were all sold to spacex and those robots will be sitting in a hanger somewhere. It’s all smoke and mirrors.
Should Hasbro be able to sue for this? Sure there’s some trademark here.
How fuckin dare he drag Optimus’ name through the gutter with his fascist metal dogs.
He’s so fucking uncreative. At least Thiel is slightly more clever with his references
Stock market capitalization bigger than all the European and American car brands COMBINED but they only sell two very similar vehicles. Makes sense
2 very similar cars and a $100k dumpster dressed as a truck
All I can hear is “Get ready to smash some clankers soon” ✨
Thank you mister Elon Musk for making the most advanced punching bags yet ! Pretty please, can you make it so they bleed when we destroy them ? Being splashed with android blood sounds absolutely glorious 👑
Tesla booked just $2.28 billion in “bedrock,” repeatable earnings. […] At its current market cap of $1.44 trillion, Tesla’s selling at an adjusted PE of 632 ($1.44 trillion divided by $2.28 billion). Palantir, the super-hot supplier of software to the intelligence community, is often cited as the ultimate in over-the-top valuations at a multiple of 353. But Palantir’s got nothing on Tesla. At a “core” multiple that’s 80% higher, Tesla easily beats Palantir for offering minimal pennies in profit for every dollar you’re paying for the shares.
https://fortune.com/2026/01/29/tesla-stock-price-pe-earnings/
Just don’t have interest but who exactly is the optimist robot marketed at? Like we all know that it doesn’t work without remote control so who’s gonna buy it.
This will be a glorious failure.
Even if his robots were ready for primetime (they’re not), I don’t see how he’s going to be able to price them affordably, given the RAM shortages.
Tesla plan to build a “tera-plant” to make RAM.
They don’t need to be affordable, they will be subscribed to. What, poor, you don’t have the iRobot subscription?
They might have at least a few years worth of contracts in place. Beyond that, hopefully the current ram situation sorts itself out?
So basically the cars are not selling, but he doesn’t want to be seen to be closing the factories.
This. They’ll shut down for retooling, open up to churn out a small number of robots that do nothing, and claim success while firing most of the staff.
Well the contract he signed for ~$1 trillion by 2035 specifies he has to deploy 1 million robots and 1 million robo-taxis. Which I can see happening.
The issue I see with it is he has to get Tesla car deliveries up to 20 million a year. To put that into perspective, new car sales in the U.S. has never hit 20 million vehicles that I know of. Globally I just saw their sales were at less than 2 million.
So chopping the $80,000+ models and keeping the ~$40,000 models that make up 97% of their sales makes sense. He needs something that will gather a lot of new sales, and there aren’t mass amounts of people with $100k to buy a new car.
My bet is on him selling cars to himself somehow
Nah, he’ll have the government buy them as fleet cars.
SpaceX are ‘buying’ all the Cyber Trucks no-one wants.
Weren’t local police departments looking at the cyber truck, ran trials, and said lol, no thanks
At least they ran trials. I feel the federal gov’t would just buy the shit with our taxes.
Good point ($1 million x $100,000 for cars)+($1 million x 500,000 for robots) is still less than a trillion $.
No?His pay schedule amounted to $1trillion, not that he was going to make Tesla 1trillion.
It’s all to pump up his compensation
My maths must be wrong but my point was:
It appears that his pay schedule is so high that he could simply buy the cars/robots required to meet his performance targets.
Maybe I’m not making sense because none of this makes sense.
It’s total bullshit. They don’t need to do anything to the factory. They haven’t made X and Y in Fremont for 2 years. There isn’t anything to retool or any space to reuse.
The factory already frequently takes manufacturing breaks for days at a time. If he had a robot to build, they have capacity, but let’s not fool ourselves. There is nothing to manufacture or deliver.
You’re dead on, this is just him hoping he can fool people into thinking they still even need his factories at full capacity. Pretty sure they don’t.
… Not using the existing machines doesn’t mean they aren’t still there, and not the right configuration for building robots…
The S and X haven’t really sold well since the model 3/y were ramped up. Those ate most of their sales. Even before the nazi shit they were low, and he’s hinted a couple times before that as well that their days were numbered.
They did want a car to put fancy tech in like the plaid version, but that’ll just be the roadster now instead.
They are leaving a big gap in the lineup though without a bigger SUV, so it’ll be interesting to see if they bring the extended Y from China to other markets now.
Edit: actually it was just after the salute before it’s impact would have been apparent in Feb. They mentioned there was some nostalgia around them even though they weren’t selling a lot, but at the same time said they weren’t going to cancel them… so that didn’t age well.
I don’t think them discontinuing old models is a problem. The problem is that they were supposed to announce new models years ago. No they are closing factories and not only still didn’t announce anything, they are switching to robots. So no new models are coming. It’s a disaster. Looks like Musk took charge at the company, forced everyone to work on Cybertruck, this failed and now they don’t know what to do.
They’ve clearly stated they canceled the newer model in place for the cybercab so ya. Unless that fails and they have to pivot back to cars with steering wheels I think the roadster / semi will be the last new human drivable ones?
It’s not the same company it used to be anymore that’s for sure.
Edit: Maybe the 3/y will get 1 last human refresh too?
I think that they were isolating Elon from real decision making for a long time but he finally took over and forced them to create the Cybertruck. To me it’s not even clear if they are still able to design cars or if Elon completely destroyed their ability to function as a car maker. Shareholders apparently still believe they can create new products but we have seen any evidence of that in years.
I mean, the Cybecab exists and is driving on public roads today with a driver for testing purposes, and without a driver on private roads. It might be a bit far to
saysuggest they can’t design a car.The question isn’t can they make a car, but is that car ever going to be allowed to legally drive on public roads as designed without a driver.
What exists is a modified model Y with a radio controller in another location.
??? The Cybercab isn’t a modified Model Y it’s a whole new platform. We were talking about new vehicles.
No, the question is why does anyone give a fuck about robotic taxis at all? Waymo has been at if far longer, for real, and they are still losing money. There is no business model.
That’s a pretty wild and closed mind thinking to say there’s no business model for it.
I’m not saying Tesla can truly solve this problem, but lets just assume for the moment that they actually can solve self driving.
Note: For anyone who questions this thesis, just to pre-empt people replying “but they can’t do it”, that is NOT what this discussion is going to be about, so get lost.
Now that that is out of the way
Waymo vehicles are retrofitted vehicles that are expensive to begin with, with more expensive hardware. The car itself is 70k+ and with retrofits its well over 100k. Jaguar and their suppliers have to earn a profit on the vehicle, and then Waymo has to pay on top of that to get it all customized. (edit: and pay for service which comes at a profit for the supplier as well)
Tesla has designed a bespoke vehicle specifically for autonomous driving that is going to cost them less than 30k to build at scale including all the hardware, no retrofits needed. Everything from it’s construction, interior, 2 seats vs 4 seats etc are all designed for this one exact purpose. They don’t even have a steering wheel or pedals, and while the video could just be a gimmick, they’ve showcased a robot that is specifically designed to be able to clean this specific interior.
Tesla can refine their own lithium hydroxide, to build their own batteries, which they claim (no proof) are cheaper than their supplier batteries for cost/kwh. That’s not to say they could sell them for more profit than Samsung or LG or BYD, but that those companies put a profit ontop of their cells, and Tesla claims the cost is below that.
So, they refine their own lithium now, could already make batteries cheaper than they could buy them from others before that, they build their own cars where they don’t need to make a profit on the sale, which has been explicitly designed for this one use case and you still don’t think there’s any room for it to be profitable, IF they can actually solve the problem?
It’s still under development and it’s hard to tell what it will do when it hits the roads. What if it’s total disaster like Cybertrack? They don’t just have to design cars. They have to design cars that people want to buy.
They have to design cars that people want to buy.
Well… that’s not true anymore
They won’t be selling it to people. Like, they are right fucked if this thing can’t drive autonomously and fast.
They are leaving a big gap in the lineup though without a bigger SUV….
One of the bigger reasons I’ve been looking at an R1S from Rivian.
That’s the better choice over the X even when they still have it as well.
S and X are luxury bespoke high performance models not intended to sell in large numbers. In fact, Tesla doesn’t have the capacity to make them in large numbers.
