Meme transcription: Anakin & Padme
[Panel 1] Anakin tries selects “Update and shut down” from the Windows start menu.
[Panel 2] Padme, labeled as “Windows”, cheerily says: ”You mean ‘Update and restart’, right?”
[Panel 3] Anakin takes an annoyed look.
[Panel 4] Padme, still cheery, says “I’ll just ‘Update and Restart’.”
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I can't stand how windows updates are so intrusive. Sometimes I'll leave my computer on running a task overnight and Windows will just say "Oh fuck you, I restarted halfway through the night, and then your computer sat idle for 3 hours". And, btw, I have updates "suspended"
I'm like everyone else here, I run Linux for most of my stuff, but Windows is on one last box, and it's just so aggravating now
"I'm like everyone else here, I run Linux…"
Erm, did you just assume my OS?
My experience is Windows starting updates during the night, getting stuck on bitlocker, so fans are yelling at 100 until I can login
Set fan speed in bios
I had fans at the most silent setting in bios but it's not a good fallback for those times when speedfan fails. It's a tough compromise
I am so satisfied with my Windows Amliorated version because it will never have Microsoft updates ever again, only through playbooks. Every bad thing is removed. I just love it and ots the first time I actually feel comfortable and not betrayed. I feel like the OS is mine and not an entity with its own desire and magic.
But of course I use Arch linux btw. Only using Windows for VR gaming
But of course I use Arch linux btw. Only using Windows for VR gaming
Was about to write a windows rant comment for you, but this saved you. I too use Arch btw.
But now I am curious what the rant would be about.
What are you all doing with your installs.
Literally never happened to me. Not in 1809, 1903, 1909, 20H1, 20H2, 21H1 ever.
It surely did some stuff believing it was idling while I was just surfing on my phone but it never restarted from itself. And I manage a good amount of PCs (Win 10/11 Pro) to say this is not a thing. At least not in Germany.
So the reason it does this is Windows update requires a reboot. So it installs the patch, reboots AND THEN shuts down. If your missing the final shut down it's becuase something is preventing it or you started using it again.
It has never done so for me. Just restarts and sits on the login screen.
Also happens for me. Kinda annoying.
Then something is wrong. Works for me.
Hu weird, this has done so on every single PC I own, including my work laptop and my Surface. No idea what could be wrong, guess some more advanced settings
50/50 for me. Last update didn't shut down, one before that did.
Same
This is what it's supposed to do. What it actually does is just sit doing jack shit at the login screen
Usually I've seen this be an issue on custom build rigs where bios might be out of date or something like fast boot is enabled which is known to cause issues in some cases where computer won't shutdown cleanly.
I swear that these image transcriptions are going to be used to train AI.
How is that bad?
… Fuck
Also to train Microsoft to be more annoying.
Never post a windows meme on lemmy. Grave mistake. I use nixos btw
I couldn’t find a Windows meme community (interesting), so I thought, an anti-Windows meme is kind of a Linux meme.
There needs to be an anti windows community, that way the linux communities can settle down a bit and actually discuss linux
i use gentoo btw, you still need to learn. You are not a real linux user if your kernel is not compiling for 3 hours.
I use Arch btw.
Compiling from a good ol' P4, are we?
Windows just does whatever the fuck it likes really
Sometimes it goes to sleep. Sometimes it just turns off the monitor. Sometimes it just wakes itself up.
Sometimes it updates itself and deletes all your user data 🤷♂️
The confusing mess that is Windows update feels like the result of a large corporation of many people that are pulling in different directions while they attempt to meet the requirements of users that are completely ignorant and apathetic.
I don't understand why I need to choose 'restart and update'. Why can't this be achieved from shutting down? It's programmed as if shutting down means I'm never coming back to the machine again. Shutdown is the wrong word, it should say Decommission.
Ngl this is a weird question. It’s like asking “why would I ever need to choose 'restart', why can’t the same be achieved by shutting down?”
You really can’t think of a use case for updating and restarting your computer instead of just shutting it down? Remote sessions? Power button in an inconvenient location? The desire to not need yet another input to get what you wanted?
I think it's weird to want to be involved in the update. They want me to sit like a dummy watching the stupid icon spin round for a few minutes. What I have learned or achieved during that time is not edifying in the slightest.
You’re no more involved than
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -yin that you’re sitting watching mostly useless info output to your screen while you wait.It’s essentially just a way of saying “the update is still happening and this is about how far we are in the process” so you’re not just twirling your thumbs at a black screen or nothing but spinning dots.
User feedback is pretty important, be it verbose output of what’s currently happening, or just a progress summary in the form of a total percent complete.
I daresay there are plenty of folks who do want to know about updates and good luck to them. At least Linux users have the opportunity to properly examine what"s inside. Windows and macOS are designed for the lowest common denominator, the people who don't understand what a cancer these proprietary tech companies have become.
Yes, the info can be useful. And technically speaking (on windows at least) you can dig into the logs and see what happened. But yeah, 99% of users don’t know what any of it means, so it makes no difference to them if it’s hidden away.
That said, aiming for the lowest common denominator is a good thing, imho, so long as you’re also providing a way for power users to get at the info being hidden.
That’s pretty much the entire way windows works. Give the tech illiterate a shiny object to stare at, and give power users a way to view what’s underneath.
The last time I paid any attention to the update process was probably ten years ago when Microsoft noticed how much user data was worth on the open market and retrofitted their nascent surveillance apparatus to win7. That seemed to motivate a lot of folks to block the offending updates. Thankfully the EU have regulated their data harvesting 'updates' but it's probably something we should keep an eye while the little number climbs to 100.
TBH if you don't restart then it's going to take an hour before it lets you log in the next time you boot up. Just keep it going on Hibernate until you're ready to let it update.
Install Linux, don't deal with this dumb shit anymore
This isn't update related but when I inserted an SD card into a laptop running Windows it blue screened. Yeah that's right, the OS crashed due to a fucking SD card.
a single anecdote that could have been coincidence proves nothing bud. i've been running Arch for years and recently my laptop has been having some issues. the trackpad only works intermittently, the speakers will randomly quit halfway through a video, and lately it's randomly shutting down with no warning when running a game. does that mean linux is terrible and nobody shouls use it cause it fucked up my computer and is a pox on all humanity? of course not. all it means is this laptop is a lemon. all those issues happen in Windows too, the once in a blue moon I have to reboot to run a game Proton doesn't support yet; i've called a repair guy in twice to replace the trackpad, and both times the issue has completely gone away for a few months before creeping back again; the speaker issue gets triggered when the laptop gets bumped, so it's almost certainly a loose connection; and i've all but confirmed the random shutdowns are thermal.
also, fwiw, i recently had to try to recover data from a physically damaged microSD card. plugging it into my laptop under windows, nothing happened. plugging it (via USB mind you) into the exact same laptop under linux and trying to mount it caused mount to lock up, requiring a reboot before it would do anything else involving filesystems.
am i still a linux fanboy? yeah. linux is infinitely better than windows for the things i need to do, most of which involve programming. but that doesn't and shouldn't mean that i believe microshaft winblows is the worst piece of software ever created and that arch is the one true OS that everyone would be using if only they would see the light (looking at you, Gardiner Bryant).
linux diehards get outta here. you're making the rest of us look bad.
All I did was make a simple negative comment about windows. There was no need for a multiple paragraph rant. I'm assuming it's because of my username and if that's true then I need to tell you my username is mostly a joke.
Literally fucking happening to me now. Fuck my company for pushing updates on Friday
Literally does what's on the tin for me.
Updated, restarted to finish it and shut down completely after that.For me it works sometimes, sometimes it doesn’t.
My reboot button wipes the BIOS.
Never happened to me.
Maybe that's a problem because you dual boot?If so: Not a supported use case by windows/ms and they will probably tell you to stop it and then it will work without issues.
If that is actually the case:
You can't just do stuff the company (as bullshit as it is) tells you not to, break the software and then call the company shit for doing something out of scope.Dual-booting literally is a supported use case
My shutdown button always just reboots. Doesn't matter if there's an update or not. Like, after a fresh install, it might shutdown correctly once…
I had this issue so frequently with Windows yet never with Linux. Fuck Windows.
ITT: people blaming Microsoft for their own technical illiteracy.
