I use Bazzite (which is steam now but community maintained for more PCs) for my htpc and PopOS for my main PC, both play every game I can throw at it. Maybe it’s time to try it out. I started with a windows dual boot and found myself using it less and less, until just a couple months ago I deleted windows completely

If there’s anything I know, it’s that gamers all have a problem with aloys appearance, positive or negative.

Just because it works doesn’t mean it follows best practices.

https://docs.docker.com/build/building/best-practices/#create-ephemeral-containers

I haven’t, but I’m going to try it out!

That doesn’t make up for bad container decisions. I run much more complex containers both that split out responsibilities and that contain everything as one container. The size and complexity is irrelevant to the bad design decisions. You can have an image that eats up gigabytes of space that runs off of proper environment/config variables with properly mounted volumes.

This will enable the biggest entry in the franchise to fully deliver on its ambition, notably by fulfilling the promise of our dual protagonist adventure, with Naoe and Yasuke bringing two very different gameplay styles.

How many times do they have to be told? Huge open worlds are great! IF they have stuff to do in them. Odyssey had a great huge open world that was incredibly detailed - then they filled it with a mediocre story and a million fetch quests.

Cyberpunk, as an alternative, had an extremely in depth story and each side quest felt like you were making a choice or that thought went into each one. Even the gigs were detailed and had thought put into them. Yeah they started to blend together, but I never felt like I was just running over, picking something up, then finding the next thing to go pick up, and repeating for 6 hours per area with 36 areas.

I mean, it’s a valid reason. I originally joined Discord back in 2016 because of it’s easy to use voice. It became the standard for voice chat. Before that I had been using the Xbox party chat and other garbage voice systems.

Matrix doesn’t offer the same experience as discord. I’m sorry but it doesn’t. I set up my own to compare to see if my friend group would like it, and it was quite a step backwards. Even in it’s best platform element it was missing a lot of stuff from discord.

So, things like this I’d be very interested to watch. Revolt looked the most promising but it didn’t offer federation, and I wasn’t going to make everyone have a separate accountjust for our server

So this will be interesting. I will need at least voice to get them to come over, but I’ll watch this project closely

League of Legends: “That wasn’t us, that was just our contractor who worked on our game”

That’s a common cop-out in the tech industry. Too freaking bad, you wanted cheap labor, you’re on the hook for cheap labor. (And I say that as a contractor. I know they paid me just because they didn’t want to hire someone and pay them benefits). Time for them to pay the price.

Yeah I’ve thought about migrating, but I have a few users on it who use nextcloud regularly now, so I’m forced to support it - unless there’s an easy migration path

Thanks, I’ll disable that. I’m extra salty right now because I had to rollback a bad version and had to rebuild some of my config over the last week. I got into version hell because the code on the volume (which is why I’m pissed at it) said that I couldn’t run the image that I had set. So I pinned an earlier version, but then there were extensions that were pinned to a later one and said that I couldn’t rollback and didn’t start. I had to end up redoing the whole drive manually, forcing specific versions in the version.php and the config.php to finally make it work (Why is it in two places). Then after all that I had to run the upgrade command. Extremely annoying, and a waste of time for me. Other docker containers if I need to pin a version? I just… pin the version. Nextcloud is the only one I’ve seen where they store code on my volume and then pin specific versions to it.

Okay well I’m not going to sit here and argue semantics. People have been sued by corporations before just for mods, that has happened a lot. All I was doing was simply pointing out that what they are doing is noble, but that we should never trust a corporation to not take the hammer out and try to destroy it, and keeping it quiet helps keep it out of their sphere for a while longer.

I don’t have the link here, but essentially yes, nextcloud can update it’s own app code in it’s image because you have to mount the code to your own filesystem. This means that between docker images you can have a mismatch of the code that you have stored and the code that the image is expecting, which frequently causes mismatches for me. This is an antipattern. The code should be stored in the image, not as a volume mount. There should never be a mismatch of code in a docker image - that’s the whole point. The configuration could be out of date sure, or if there’s a data file that’s needed, that’s expected. The actual running code thought, that should never be on a mountable volume.

Next time you update the image you will probably be greeted with a “Nextcloud needs to update”. That should not exist. You already pulled the image, that should be everything you need to do. The caveats are extensions, kind of a grey area in my book, but I know it’s not a clean pattern with those either. (The best one I’ve seen lets you pin the extension version with environment variables or a config file, and then once again you are in control of when they update, and no running code is stored outside of the image.)

Docker images should never self update - that’s an anti pattern. They should be static code. The only time I would expect a docker image to “auto update” is if I was using the “latest” or “stable” tag and Compose/Kubernetes/I repull the image - but the image should never update itself.

Yes, OP bit off more than they could chew. Nextcloud, however, is breaking the entire purpose of Docker images by having an auto-updater at all.

Yeah of course - just have fun paying your own lawyer 6 figures to prove that in court while their team of lawyers try to convince a judge that it is illegal.

I had to learn how to mount subpaths for their terrible container, and god just the updater is mind boggling. And I have to store their code in a volume, because of course I have to, why would code and configuration ever need to be… configurable? I actually just tried to put their config.php into a ConfigMap just to try, and of course PHP doesn’t allow that - not that I blame PHP for it - but ffs it’s been years, it’s time to allow config to also come from a yaml or something.

I do it in docker at home, for myself, in an environment I am okay with accidentally destroying - and even then I have nightly backups of the volumes.

In a professional system, as mentioned in my other comment, I would simply just do it in a VM with the disk scheduled also for nightly backups. Nextcloud just hardcoded too many things dependent on thinking the underlying system was mutable. Unfortuantely that’s just the easiest way to handle it.

However, also as mentioned, if I were in a professional environment, I’d have to really look at the cost for all of that infrastructure and my time to run it - and decide if I really thought I could run it myself with all of that overhead, and that it would still make sense compared to just doing google docs or something. Remember it’d be my ass on the line, as OP is learning

Oh yeah, if you’re in a professional environment, I’m sorry but that’s just not great. The only way I’d consider running Nextcloud professionally would be on a VM of it’s own with nightly disk backups, with blob storage as the backing - and even then with the cloud costs really how close are you to just paying for an enterprise license to Google or Microsoft? Plus the headache of not having to worry about it yourself

God I hate when something good comes around that flaunts a rule and people make it a huge fucking deal and then are all shocked pikachu when the company is mad about it. If there’s something like this keep it fucking quiet you rubes. Share the github quietly, or just upvote it on NexusMods. Don’t go plastering it everywhere.

Yuzu got shut down because it got plastered everywhere, they essentially normalized privacy. Of course Nintendo was going to take them down. If you basically plaster it on their front door you’re begging them to take action.

Oh, Nextcloud docker is a joke. They follow no standards or best practices when it comes to docker. They keep the entire app directory mounted as a volume, which means it does upgrade you without you “needing” to upgrade the docker image. They have volumes within volumes they need to mount. Their configs can (and do) override environment variables. Most actions that need to be taken require running an occ command which can only be done by exec’ing into the container.

Nextcloud docker is honestly just such a joke. They should have rethought their application from a docker sense and they didn’t. God just number one - Docker images should never update. It’s a freaking pinned version for a reason. If I want to update, it should be as simple as upping the version tag, and it does any upgrades in place when I do that.

I honestly steer people away from Nextcloud now because of how mismanaged their images are.