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- cross-posted to:
- smugideologyman@lemmy.dbzer0.com
[orange, proud]
I’m willing to pay more for products MADE IN THE USA because I’m a based patriot who wants to SUPPORT REAL AMERICANS
[green, accusatory]
OK then how about supporting american workers by paying them a living wage?
[orange, dismissively shaking their hands while having a look of absolute disgust on their face]
NO
[the comic is squished into a funneling triangle shape for some reason]
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A real american:
THE OG OF THE WORLD … YA’LL ARE INTRUDERS
All humans should be deported from planet earth as illegal invasive species, and restore this glorious planet to unicellular organisms.
Yeast?
Too advanced, they came later, it’s just an unforgotten Amoeba.
La di da, with your cellular walls and your organelles. Piss off, ya foreign gobshite!
Funny how American = European American, whereas everyone else needs a prefix in front of them.
It should be American = Native American, and everyone else should keep the prefix.
“America” was a European invention (Vespucci). The Native Americans didn’t think of it as one unified land mass.
Native American is quite proper, you’re trying to add some racism here where there is clearly not. We refer to American as anyone who lives here, not just European Americans? Where the fuck do you get your information? lol
E: He’s right, media is generally racist as they still pander to European Americans. I retract. We’re on two different entities here.
There is currently an active racist movement to dehumanize Americans because of a dislike of the nations own choosen name. It’s seen very noticeably with the push for “USian” here on lemmy.
Americans choose to be called Americans. The name of a country and what it wishes to be called should be respected. We all live here we all have a stake in the betterment of the land. The native peoples are just that. The natives, but they arnt the only ones who have claim to the land at this point. Even then the natives migrated here ages ago, no different than the Spanish and Europeans did.
The only difference is people have found an excuse to belittle and attack the European descendents because of current political circumstances.
The native people are mistreated and attacked by our government yes. But that does not change that for now hundreds of years there are generations of people who do give back to the land. Those who respect it, and try to better it. These people are not native to this land but have made it their home.
It does not matter your ancestors origins, for you are the ancestors to the next generation. You have the power to show respect to show love and kindness. And to make a new home. We are all foreign till we settle down.
Americans are Americans. Those who have been here for thousands or those for hundreds. The only ones who should be cast as others are those who destroy the land and it’s people ruining it for the next generation willfully.
That’s not an American, that’s a Hunkpapa Sioux.
Which is one of the native American tribes.
The American ethnicity is pretty much the European ethnicities supplanted onto “American” grounds - Trying to integrate the Native American tribes into that ethnicity feels like tribe-erasure to me. They are separate ethnicities - heck, I’m not even sure if “the American ethnicity” is really a single ethnicity.
And they were not in america?
They were, but if I enter the USA as Dutchman, doesn’t undo almost 40 years of existing in Dutch culture. Or in his case, if people invade (nazis or colonists - take your pick), won’t undo the existence of your own culture.
Certain companies have tried this in a heads-up fashion: offer both the USA made option and one made overseas. The catch is the one made in the USA is 3x more expensive.
0% of people bought the USA-made one.
The few Made In America products with a 200% premium over the overseas competition I am aware of are not short on customers.
Of the many, many, many, “66% off from the factory” overseas products out there, almost none reach American retail shelves without a markup that gets them within 25% of the price of their “locally”-produced counterparts.
Your “certain companies” set-up those consumers to fail, in order to convince share-holders that their brands wouldn’t suffer from off-shoring production.
You should try being more selective with your sources.
The few Made In America products with a 200% premium over the overseas competition I am aware of are not short on customers.
Name one.
Could I interest you in a https://www.jjgeorgestore.com/the-smarter-scrubber/
admitedly, I’m not certain that they’re not short on customers he made them a few years ago and they’re still being sold, could just be backstock
Okay that’s pretty cool, still yeah idk if i can afford that when i can buy a basic scrubber for two bucks.
We get it, you’re the bottom of the triangle. That a flex where you’re from?
I dont even know what flex means lmao im too old for that stuff
I’m probably older than you, or at least my adult children still answer the phone when I call and I’ll almost-certainly spend time with any grand-babies when that day comes.
“Out-of-touch” isn’t the flex you think it is either. Oh, and “flex” comes from workout-culture - its probably older than either of us.
Destin from the YouTube channel Smarter Every Day had a hand in the creation of this. Is a great video highlighting the dire situation of US manufacturing.
That dude always creeps me out. Something about him always feels uncannily fake.
I try to avoid American products wherever possible :)
Same here! I don’t like the idea of my money funding their abhorrent administration
I will pay more for a non-US option
I would like things made by local craftsman.
Made in USA has a markup for the cost of labor. But that’s kind of alright by me (when I can afford it) because we should pay people living wages. However, so many companies use “made in USA” as the sole reason to add even MORE markup beyond the additional costs for manufacturing.
I like made locally also because it means let’s transport costs and hopefully lower emissions in what it takes to deliver it to market.
I have a hard time understanding why certain companies should be allowed to be multinational conglomerates. Certain markets probably should have hard caps to the size companies can reach.
I agree with your vibe, especially supporting local craftsmen. But buying American a bit more complicated than looking for the “Made in the USA” sticker.
Some “made in the USA” stuff is prison labor. These companies are profiting off of prisoners. It’s better than slave/child labor overseas but it sucks all around.
Another aspect is that politics around the “Made in the USA” are merky. Final assembly can occur here in the US but it doesn’t mean that it was “made” here.
I went into a deep dive a few years back and found that because of various loopholes, American branded cars are often made in Mexico and then “finished” in the US whereas most foreign brands are assembled in the US.
All of this to say: until we escape late stage capitalism, it’s hard to know for sure how to best support Americans.
How is oversea slave labor better then local slave labor…? The fuck
Nice strawman. Keep fighting it, bud.
How is it a straw man? Show your work, pal
The subjects are not “superficially similar”, in fact, you can’t have A (made in America) without B (wages)
Show your work, pal
ok, gabber:
I ain’t found shit on the Googles if I search for anything that looks like OP’s argument. Almost like there’s no one who made the argument that OP claims is being made.
This is an accurate portrayal of the opinions of countless “america first” dipshits, common enough that you’ve definitely seen it
Then you must have plenty of links, twitter screenshots, etc, to shower me with, to prove your point, no? Instead of the claiming you just do.
He who makes the claim, must provide the evidence. I did a quick google for OP’s claim and found jack shit.
You didn’t google a goddamn thing quit lying
Oh wow, it’s only Lemmy instances! Who knew!? Find me an actual person making the claim the OP says that people are making. Doesn’t even have to be literally word-for-word.
Lemmy users are actual people, dumbass
Who are you calling a dumbass, when the results are literally just a copy and paste from the comic - that’s self-referential, not a source.
That’s because the only search terms you tried is the copypasted text of this post, dumbass
I am definitely willing to pay more just to avoid stuff made in the USA and Israel.
