Online doesn’t count since you can’t drop a dvd into one…

Best buy stopped carrying physical media in stores ages ago and outside of very out of date stores don’t have display models like that anymore.

Eh costs likely basically nothing. They appear to use cloud flare CDN which has unlimited bandwidth.

So really all they’re doing is getting their money’s worth from their subscription. Lol

If you want a console like experience on your PC then use bazzite. If you want the same experience but with out the console lock down use cachyOS.

Depends on how much you do with your PC really. Like bazzite has one of the best out-of-box experiences there is. Basically everything is preset up. But if you need to say, leave the steam ecosystem. Things become infinitely more complicated than any other distro to do anything with that is both the benefit in downfall of an immutable distro. It makes sure you can’t f*** anything up but it also means you can’t f*** anything up if you get what I mean.

While cachyOS has the exact same out-of-box experience with the sole exception of you have to push one button and type in your password. And if you do need to leave the steam ecosystem, it’s at the end of the day a normal distribution so you can just do whatever you want.

The downside is you can do whatever you want so you can break s***.

Basically comes down to bazzite is basically old Windows. You are not allowed to do anything really without a lot of jumping through hoops. It means you’re going to get a consistent experience and it’s going to be reliable, but only within the operating parameters set out by the distribution.

While cachyOS is basically all of the same upsides but without any of the guardrails. So if you want just a good out of box experience it’s there. All the compatibility is the same if not generally better in the real world. But again, if you’re stupid or unable to read basic instructions there’s a good chance that you break something and you’ll have no idea how to fix it. Short of a reinstall.

I would give a child bazzite 100% of the time. Immutable this shows work is a fantastic form of parental control. Because while the barrier exists and will prevent most kids from doing something stupid with their computer, it’s not insurmountable and you still can do whatever you want with your computer. It’s just not easy.

But in either case, I would choose literally shooting myself in the foot before using anything in the debian or Ubuntu family if my primary goal is gaming. I love Debian but it in its family of distros are so out of date and require so much f****** to actually bring in newer packages and make sure that they actually compete even half as well as a fedora or arch-based option that it’s not worth the hassle. You’re far more prone to breaking a Debian mint popos install. Trying to make it equivalent to bazzite or cachy for gaming. Than you are breaking an arch install by just randomly installing packages from the aur without reading anything.

Problem generally is that the moment you do have to leave steam. It’s infinitely worse and basically impossible to use for a low skilled or new user compared to other gamer distros that do the exact same thing as bazzite but arnt immutable.

Immutability is great till you need to actually do anything at all. It’s such a catch 22. To a new user, it means you can’t accidentally f*** anything up, but also to a new user basically means your computer is a glorified console and you can’t do anything with it because you lack the skill set in knowledge to actually do anything in looking. Anything up basically isn’t going to be helpful for you cuz basically every guide and written account anywhere you find isn’t going to be geared towards an immutable distro.

The immutable gimmick that’s currently going on right now is still way too flavor of the month for new users who are trying to learn from a ground set of nothing.

If I was giving a computer to like a kid who I didn’t want to be able to do anything I would give it to them as a form of parental control more than anything.

Immutable distros are currently the flavor of the month and it’s basically just that. Bazzite is just a worse cachyOS. But because it’s immutable it’s the flavor of the month and therefore it’s the hype new thing.

Everyone loves the hype new thing. Even though in all realistic aspects, it’s more overly complicated. It’s more prone to causing issues for new users. It’s less proven.

There’s a good argument to be made that the project might just end up imploding in a year or two and dying out and f****** over all these new users who are flocking to it because of rampant suggestions.

Is also the general issue of Fedora and its family being prone to breaking itself from early adoption of new ideas. People love to give Arch s*** but Fedora tends to be the one that actually implodes itself for low-skilled users.

Got to love flavor of the month

It suffers from the same problem all Debian/Ubuntu family distros suffer from.

Being horribly out of date. It’s a very slow moving family of distros. Which can be a good thing if your work load doesn’t involve new hardware and software along with a focus on stability and reliability. Since if things don’t update they can’t break.

This can result in support for hardware and software being upwards of two to three YEARS out of date. Which for gamers for example is unacceptable and causes issues more often then not.

It’s the why fedora or arch based distros are generally speaking the better option to suggest to people. Depending on their level of intelligence, education and willingness to learn.

Bazzite and cachyOS for example are both fantastic for gamers.

Fedora or endeavour for your run of the mill office PC.

There is a serious argument to be made that the mass adoption of bazzite and the general flavor of the month affection for immutable distros is very likely going to cause issues for loads of users down the road.

So bazzite being overly popular is somewhat concerning. Flavor of the month distros have a bad tendency to implode randomly.

Hes a shit bag then and still is. Fuck this guy.

Arch breaks less frequently then Ubuntu at this point… Honestly I would put arch in the top 3 most stable and unbreaking options.

You have to go out of your way to break arch nowadays. The catch 22 is arch will happily allow you to do that. But it sure won’t do it, it self.

Cause Debian is an out of date rock.

If you need a rock it’s good

But it’s still a rock for better or worse and rocks are a pain in the ass to do anything with that isn’t just having it sit there.

At least you don’t have ear and tail evny it’s so fluffy

I try… But every time I attempt to buy anything remotely specialized in my city it doesn’t exist. Stores just don’t exist for fucking anything anymore.

And if they do they never have anything in stock and just want you to order from their website. Which frequently is poorly made and half the time it’s twice as expensive on their damn site.

It’s fucked.

Honestly I would be ok with then being the next tech silo. If they just actually did a good job more often.

They perpetually suffer from 6 outta 10 syndrome.

They are good enough to use, better then most alternatives, but just suck enough that I’m always disappointed but not angry.

This is why phallic things should not be red

Iv come to learn over the years. If you want to buy computer parts just do it.

Your actively stupid if you don’t cause some bigger idiot with more money then brains will make a new grift that causes everything to be unaffordable.

Fuck waiting for deals, fuck thinking twice. Just fucking buy it and ignore reality around you cause you will be pissed either way.

Either a deal comes and you fucked yourself, or everything goes to the moon and now you have nothing AND your fucked.

The fuck sort of dipshit argument is this for video games…?

He was saying ditch video games man… VIDEO GAMES.

That’s only three don’t you see the raccoon? You need five to stop the thoughts.

Yet … They probably don’t need donations yet!

Respect from large studios and software developers for one.

Actual professional investment and availability for another.

The user end of govermental and professional linux space literally is only as shitty as it is because of the lack of user base.

It’s like breathing, it’s just automatic. If someone points it out and I over think it then suddenly I go brain stupid for a second double guessing everything.

Easily we just do. It’s like breathing. We just do it.

Can you explain how you breath? Or beat your heart? Or create blood?

That’s how we do.