Tim Sweeney can go eat a dick
The head of the second most child-predatory company that people basically only use for free games is a bad actor. Who could have guessed?
Yeah we are on the losing side of history. The future will be total ai slop. People love it. We will be the grumpy old folks yelling that the tv ruined the world.
Even if that did happen, it wouldn’t defeat the point of the disclosures at all. In fact, people will appreciate it all the more if a game is made without any AI involvement and it will become a selling point.
Plus, shouldn’t he want that information to be front and center anyway if he actually thinks it’s a good thing?
He, like the that Microsoft suit, has just enough awareness to realize how AI is being thought of by the general public, and knows it would affect his bottom line. Which is really all he cares about.
I only play organic games.
Indeed, I only play games generated by artificial brains grown in vats.
I think it would be helpful to know how AI is used.
It already is becoming a positive marketing point!
Yeah, there’s a solid group of us that hates AI so much we’d do this.
I try to avoid it as best I can. When it comes to art, I won’t touch anything that’s AI.
At a very near point though, it’s likely going to be impossible to do it without AI involvement, or at the very least without proving you didn’t somehow.
AI is being baked into almost every dev and art tool. They aren’t just talking about using ChatGPT, if your game uses a single texture or model that ever got touched by a machine learning algorithm, you’re using AI.
As long as AI doesn’t take away our hands, it’ll always be perfectly possible to draw our own art, compose our own music and write our own code. And especially in the open-source space, there’s plenty of creative software not jumping on the AI bandwagon.
It’s becoming nearly impossible to write code in a corporate environment without AI. Everyone has AI auto complete at the minimum, and AI code generation is at a point where it’s at least even with an entry level dev.
I’m sure that’s the case at some companies, but where I work, I can freely choose which tools I use for coding and whether or not to use AI, despite one of my bosses being obsessed with it.
This is true. My company heavily pushes employees to use AI to write software
eew
I’m glad that Tim Sweeny and its Epig Games Store is not the market leader.
lol I just found my 7 year old post on Reddit (when Reddit was cool) of a Epig Games logo creation: https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckepic/comments/bvw5ru/epig_games/
But pigs are cute :(
Why associate them with such a shit company?
Tim Fashy again demonstrates why Steam is as successful as it is without a monopoly.
Also, another reason to never, ever do anything to do with epic, proven by the Chief Enslavement Officer itself.
PC gamers (sample size: at least 1) say they struggle to think of anything valuable that Tim Sweeney has ever said.
Up that sample size to 2 baybee
App Store policies from Apple and Google are unacceptable. That’s Sweeney. Broken clock right twice a day and all.
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Information good. Hiding information bad. Nefarious intentions.
Sugars and additives are in nearly all foods, maybe we should stop asking manufacturers to disclose it on the ingredients list.
Waste of ink really
People are all gonna die, eventually. Might as well get it over with.
The funeral services community liked that.
If most games will contain AI content, then an “AI-free” badge couldn’t be more important. He must understand that that statement is a complete logical fallacy, right?
It’s Tim Sweeney, he doesn’t understand where the sun goes at night.
Except every tool used for development is going to have some level of AI in it and unless you are also building your own AI free tool you aren’t going to know what’s truly AI free. AI is here and the cat’s out of the bag. There is no putting it back in at this point. We as a society need to figure out how to use it ethically.
We as a society need to figure out how to use it ethically.
We can’t even restrain ourselves on the usage of weapons, the extraction of natural resources, the usage of energy, consumerism, or cars. The way our societies are working will not give much chance to ethics.
LLMs are actually just massively improved spell checks. If you’ve used an IDE with in line error detection, technically that’s AI now.
I do wish we’ve drawn the line more clearly on what “AI” usage means in terms of “this game was made with AI”
Every single time I think about what LLM are I think about this quote from the game Night in the Woods:
“We’re good at drawing lines through the spaces between stars like we’re pattern-finders, and we’ll find patterns and we like really put our hearts and minds into it and even if we don’t mean to.”
LLMs are based on neural networks. They are little brains that have nothing else to deal with than finding patterns in our own logic and can seem to be smarter than what they really are because of it. Evolution has not weighted them with an ego or urgency, but because it has been trained on ours it can sometimes emulate it. But it fundamentally lacks the complexity of our brains, at least for now. It is still amazing what they can do given so little, and it is amazing how convincing they can be with their answers when they are completely wrong. It is a viral form of intelligence.
What I consider sad is that we are really getting no option to run it locally. It’s an excuse to turn everything into a live service where not even a subscription saves you because you can run out of “tokens” now. I have absolutely no issue with OSS tools incorporating LocalLLM aids. If people have modern GPUs then they can use local LLMs in some form or another.
As if down voting me is going to make the AI problem go away. Lemmy baffles me. People on here are the most pro FOSS but luddites at the same time when it comes to AI.
There is no going back from anyone this. We are gonna have to figure out how to live with the consequences of AI. We should be making a lot more noise about AI to law makers. It’s coming for all of our jobs now matter what sector you work in. At some point people are going to have to accept it and make the best of it.
People on here are the most pro FOSS but luddites at the same time when it comes to AI.
This is consistent. Do you realize who the Luddites were?
We’re seeing the rise of push back against AI gen stuff… https://www.theverge.com/entertainment/827650/indie-developers-gen-ai-nexon-arc-raiders
Doubling down on the glazing of the ai bubble is pretty on brand for him. In before “tim sues steam for spurious claims against ai” or some other bullshit.
Sidenote: IsThereAnyDeal.com has the steam ai declarations as part of the quick reference section on game pages now. https://mastodon.social/@isthereanydeal/115606686918493913
If it’s available in “nearly all” development then you can switch the tag to say “no AI” and then I can continue discovering and buying games that don’t have that BS.
But we all know, as does Sweeney, that that’s a lie. And also that I wouldn’t shop for games on Epic Store anyway, for reasons just like this.
I’d, some of these guys seem to be true believers. They are still ghouls to be shunned
Tim continues to not ‘read the room’
On the wrong side of nearly everything. Disappointing, he was a gaming pioneer. Now just a petty greedy corpo.
Yeah, it’s a shame for sure.
Then put the disclaimer in all games? So what, not like they’re limited quantity
Yes, like we don’t have Handmade tags in products…
I dont know about the future, but a “No AI-Art” tag, makes sense to me.
I have seen handmade tags, for stuff that wasn’t machine loomed, etc. But handmade clothing is mostly dead in the consumer world, unless you class mass production methods as handmade… Which they are made by hands in some stage
Handmade clothes may be not the norm but they are not extinct. Dresses, scarfs and accesorising can be found handmade. Luxury market is in majority handmade.
The point is that the label is not pointless. It exist and will exist in the future. I just hope that games with human art won’t be considered a luxury.
I think a lot of what was art will die, you have logo generators and random people image generators that used to be done by a graphic artist, or a photgrapher.
