1Password faced immediate backlash from customers this week over a $300,000 pledge in support of a Linux distro created by David Heinemeier Hansson, who has regularly published overtly racist blog posts that include comments calling for deportation of ethnic minorities in Europe. The popular password manager is now a “distinguished corporate patron” of Omacom, the nonprofit foundation that oversees a popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.

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    of Omacom, the nonprofit foundation that oversees a popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.

    popular?! According to whom?

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      From Omarchy’s site:

      malleable OS for the age of agents. Where you can vibe your way through every alteration, tweak, and desire. Be the Omarch and command your agent!

      Wtf

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    Why does this shit distro deserve all this funding and support? There’s many better options doing a lot more for the ecosystem yet this gets the attention. It’s don’t understand.

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      It uses AI to fix issues and errors. And billionaires need people to use AI as much as possible.

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      I think we all know why. Whether having money causes racism, or it just so happens that racists are the ones with the money and they’re good at keeping it “In The Family” so to speak is kind of tangential and academic. It’s the hateful bigots that have the cash to fund big things, so if you want funding, it pays to be trashy.

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      Very seldom is something funded that “deserves” it. The answer is that its’ creator (DHH) is very wealthy and connected.

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      That’s the thing about real world. People don’t ask for permission to do things.

      If you think you can do better, who’s stopping you?

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      https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity

      • 12 mo: #21
      • 6 mo: #19
      • 3 mo: #16
      • 1 mo: #12

      Obviously growing in popularity. That’s what aggressive marketing usually gets you.

      If you don’t like that, perhaps consider stop talking about it, and him. Instead, every second week somebody writes an article about “DHH is fascist”. What the fuck do they think the effect of those articles is?

      Are people actually so dumb that they think accusing him of fascism will make him disappear? That’s like high-octane clickbait fuel.

      Same with Trump et alia. It’s garmonbozia.

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        The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics are a light-hearted way of measuring interest in Linux distributions and other free operating systems among the visitors of this website. They correlate neither to usage nor to quality and should not be used to measure the market share of distributions. They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch was accessed each day, nothing more.

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        I don’t write any articles on him or his dot file collection. The reach of Lemmy comments is close to zero and even more so among the red pilled who know the truth.

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    As bad as the “Nazi bar” problem seems to be in FOSS at the moment, it is definitely heartening to consistently see how immediate and overwhelming the pushback has been. I think it says a lot about the community, and it’s a good thing.

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    1Password does not endorse hateful, dehumanizing, or exclusionary views, including those shared publicly by DHH.

    Except… ya just did. Big 'ol cashy money endorsement.

    Or did you forget about that already? Because we didn’t.

    Art / artist.

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    “popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.”

    I’ve literally never heard of it.

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      I’ve seen a handful of videos about it recently that have been pushed into my algorithm. There’s definitely a campaign to get it out to influencers. Never heard of it prior to this week.

      It’s just a fork of Arch, with tiling, that’s been slop coded with AI. Something anyone could recreate without AI in a couple hours if they’re familiar with Arch.

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      It’s yet another distro being shilled by god knows who on YouTube and other social media.

      The fact that it’s being pushed so hard without anything of note about it is already suspicious to me.

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      I only know of it because I was on Distro Watch this week looking for top mention distros I never heard of. The mentions position is likely because of this donation. lol

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      I’ve heard the name but have not spent the time to find out what it is. I thought it was some immutable distro. I think the same about bazzite and catchy (sp?) which are other distros I see mentioned from time to time and believe are immutable and flatpak-y and that’s all I know. I realise I’m just one data point but I never see a lot about these sorts of distros in my general browsing.

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      yeah this is like a bunch of other internet things where I kinda hate it even seeing it. for me its not a thing of interest.

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      Oh well if you’ve never personally heard of it, it must not be popular, right?

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        I’m not OP but yeah, basically. People who are passionate about a specific topic will know what’s up in that area.

        I can name half a dozen of the most popular Arch-based distros off the top of my head because… they’re actually well-known. Meaning they’ve been around for years, I’ve used several personally and can argue their pros and cons, and they feature prominently in objective lineups like the Steam Hardware Survey. Omarchy is none of these things.

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        It’s virtually unknown in the Linux world too. It’s literally something they made up overnight and are trying to astroturf.

        I’d say “what a time to be alive” to see the day someone considers it worth astroturfing a Linux distro, except there’s probably some nefarious shit behind it.

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      Cachyos will forever be the ideal Arch distro for nerds who want the benefits of Arch without the hassle of Arch (until they support some giant racist or soemthing)

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    Nonetheless, it seems the company has sacrificed a moral position for a “mission-driven” position. In the same message to staff, Faugno says “the scale and growth of [Omarchy’s] use among our customers is significant - Omarchy has grown to be the second most used Linux distribution among 1Password users."

    I didn’t know Omarchy existed until, like, yesterday, so this is surprising. Do 1Password users just tend not to use Linux, so second place isn’t many users?

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      I feel like this has to be made up, downstream repack distros almost never show up on the top 10 usage stats. You will always see Ubuntu way ahead of Kubuntu.

      Not to mention 1Password is a pretty popular enterprise app and I have yet to see some insane sysadmin actually roll with arch as their distro of choice. Most are probably on RHEL or some other enterprise derivative.

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          That piece of information seems like key context. 1Password didn’t just give money simply because they like the product. More or less, it’s product placement in return for funding.

          I’m on the fence if that’s better or worse.

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          Ah didn’t realize it came preinstalled lol.

          spoiler

          Prepackaged “superior” arch distro and the best they could come up with was 1Password? seriously lol?

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            1Password is the best they could come up with when “best” is measured in dollars contributed.

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          I said somewhere else that giving money to a distro won’t even have an ROI, but I didn’t know about this. If the distro is promoting their product that’s a whole other thing.

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          Terrible security record?

          Of the items listed in your link, only the second one seems problematic, in that I wish they had discovered the (non-password but still privacy related) issues first. Even that section acknowledges all of the issues are fixed. The only section that makes it sound like there is still a problem is the last one, which states that version X still contains the vulnerabilities, but in reality that’s just how versions work. Patching a vulnerability creates a new version.

          Is there ANY record of passwords being leaked from 1password because of their own lack of security??

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            The pattern is this: First, they find out who to hate. Second, they find reasons to hate. Third, if they cannot find any reasons, they make them up.

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          lol what. 1Password literally has one of the best security records out there. They’re the ones actually inventing new more secure ways of doing things. The fact that those are all of the issues over the years and they’re one of the most popular pw managers on the planet is pretty indicative of how strong their security actually is. And they’ve never had a password breach, unlike lastpass.

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      I haven’t checked but I would guess that 1password comes pre-installed in Oligarchy and they’re counting every user that loads the client as a “user.”

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        Isn’t that a commercial product for which great open source alternatives exist? What kind of distro does that?

        And don’t they also preinstall Basecamp, DHH’s own company’s product?

        Maybe it’s all just a vehicle for product placement.

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          What kind of distro does that?

          One that does not care at all about having maintaining a sane and open ecosystem. Where there’s money to make, they will prey down quickly. Now that people are somewhat convinced that Linux based systems can work and actually attract the general public, a whole new market is ripe for reaping.

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    How the fuck is Omarchy “popular”? I’ve been on Linux going on a decade, give or take, and I first knew about it when someone here in Lemmy mentioned that Dell and some other shit companies were proton a few millions on it.

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      It’s popular to a lot of the non Foss tech job devs that want to try Linux after mostly using macOS for Dev work. It comes with keybinds they are familiar woth has a pretty UI by default and is arch base. They probably work for companies that are also right wing so it’s something they don’t care about as much as people in alignment with the Foss ideology.

      Compared to today’s mask off fascism in the states the guy behind Omarchy is pretty tame and probably less mask off evil than the people they work for

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    I already wasn’t gonna use either, but now I’m not gonna use either even harder.

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    So YT’s algorithm is pushing right wing racist distros?

    Huh. Wonder who is paying to make that algorithm work that way.

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      Why isn’t this in the article? That’s literally a journalist’s job to provide that kind of context.

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    I’m so glad I switched to Bitwarden. Even without the whole extreme-right angle, the distro, that I’ve never heard of before today, seems like total slop.

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      Its not even a distro. Its arch with dotfiles. Literally.

      No repos, no custom packages, etc. Just arch with sloppy dotfiles.

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        They have repos now, but nothing in them is too advanced, and they absolutely do not deserve the money. GNU/Linux Mint offers THREE great desktop experiences, which are not kitsch slop (even if you don’t like them, they’re very high-quality) and have a much smaller budget.

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        You can hate DHH, but that’s a straight up lie. They have repos, custom packages. They have an ISO installer, mirrors, even a custom kernel. If that’s not a distro then what is?

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            now we need a fork/replacment for their shitty clients that have unreliable offline functionality and were on an EOL Electron for like 3 months, and for rbw which hasn’t been updated in ages and has compatibility issues with bitwarden.com now

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              I hope someone makes a replacement rather than a fork, i reallly hate Electron, we need to hope for a fork of the browser extension too
              (Before anyone says anything: yes i thought of making it myself but i don’t really have expirience in security stuff and fluff so i’d rather wait for someone expirienced to do it)

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                Agreed, Electron has so much weird behavior and is a bloated slow mess. My latest annoyance with Electron is that it has the keyrings hardcoded to the desktop environment instead of going through the proper DBus APIs which of course breaks on my own desktop environment and I have to add a flag to all of my Electron apps to work around this.

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            I must be confusing vaultwarden with another bitwarden compatible thing and thought this is the one I have to host a server myself.

            Probably better that I do that tbh

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              that’s right, vaultwarden is the server. It’s not a bad idea to host it yourself, but this is kinda a critical service, and the clients are not too good in keeping the data accessible if the server goes down. so, choose wisely. there are also unofficial public bitwarden servers you can use. if that sounds better, choose one that hosts multiple services and has a community around it, those have a better chance of being kept alive.

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                My thought process is that I set up the server on my home computer as the main base, and have that occasionally sync to my other devices such as phone and laptop, and sync back to it if I do any changes in those. The remote devices should have local database because my main computer will not always be online.

                How feasible is that and how easy is that to set up?

                Or should I just set up keepass instead since IIRC that’s one of the ways it can be set up.

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                  The remote devices should have local database because my main computer will not always be online.

                  yeah, about that. none of the official bitwarden clients allow editing if the server is not accessible. they didn’t want to have to deal with conflict resolution

                  Or should I just set up keepass instead since IIRC that’s one of the ways it can be set up.

                  sounds like a better idea. but synchronization wise, conflict resolution has to happen somewhere. like when you edit an entry on two devices, and later they try to sync both changes at once. Fortunately tye keepass format has a more comprehensive entry edit history than bitwarden, so clients can figure it out.
                  keepassxc on linux supports something called keeshare, check how is compatibility for that with your mobile keepass app. original keepass on windows supports some kind of automatic merging on saving and loading, maybe keepassxc does that too? if you end up using synthing, conflicts could occur at that layer, which is not hard but not so straightforward to handle, but keeshare is supposed to help with that I think.