It’s not production shortages due to ai. They are doing what the diamond industry does. Control the flow, falsely increase rarity and raise prices. The shareholders love it.
“I own anything produced by humanity for the next 50 years. Dont worry everyone, I can sell you tiny bits here and there at 10x the cost. I am successful business person and this is a free market. If you dont like it, maybe you should just get good losers.”
The same 64gb I got in 2024 for $171 USD is now roughly $1100.
When they say it’s predicted to last another three years what they mean is they hope it lasts another three years because that means they’re Investments will be worth more when the bubble finally does burst.
They can’t predict the market any more than anyone else can so this doesn’t really mean anything. We wait as well be asking tarot card readers if RAM prices are going to decrease anytime soon.
What angers me the most is how the tech media is not even entertaing the thought of a possibility that the currently accelerating circular finance bubble is going to implode within the next 3 years. It is boardering disinfirmation.
The main problem I have with RAM increasing in price is not the RAM itself. I personally have enough RAM in my PC and I’m not looking to upgrade at any point in the near future.
No, my issue is how everything else becomes more expensive because of it.
Infrastructure requires two things these days: fuel and computers. And both are getting fucked over. Because of all the things that rely on this infrastructure, everything, even mundane things, will increase in price.
And when the bubble eventually pops, everyone below the ultra rich will suffer for it, another major economical crash like 2008. And of course the people responsible will get away with it.
“the people responsible will get sway with it”
Not only will they get away with it, but they will make massive profits off of it. They will be buying up foreclosed houses, colluding with their friends to short stocks of businesses they buy up and and run into the ground, buying the dip, and still having more than enough leftover to live how they are currently living.
Every time there is one of these recessions or economic crisises, the rich get a lot richer. To them it’s just “buying season”. They have enough money to wait it out.
There’s a saying these fucks have: “Fortunes are made when there’s blood in the streets.”
Jokes on them, I found other hobbies.
The trouble is oil prices are going up as well which means that everything else is more expensive. So unless your hobby is sitting alone in a dark room with all the power switched off, you’re losing out as well.
Cooperative storytelling, old boardgames and outdoor social activities - there’s plenty to do without buying new stuff.
Heretic there is nothing beyond the computer
I wish
FFS !!
maybe its time for me to go ahead on the Framework purchase…
It uses LPCAMM, still not as popular but i expect the prices to just keep climbing
I think LPCAMM is just as expensive, but yeah, if you know you’ll need a computer it’s better to buy it now
It’s a little better than usual pricing simply because it isn’t as popular, it’s not as if you have a choice in the type of RAM that you buy for your system, but there’s not much in it. I guess if you are im the market for a lot of RAM it would be a noticeable price difference l, but if you just in the market of a couple of sticks to add to your personal rig you’re not going to notice the price difference that much, it certainly less than the fluctuations you get between retailers.
I think it’s interesting (and probably telling) that this comment section is largely concerned about consumer gaming memory than like, the cumulative cost increases that this creates in a computer-dependent global economy.
What if we stopped putting computers in fridges?
Yeah, that’s ideal, the reason we put computers in fridges is the data collection is part of the value thar offsets a lower cost for the fridge as worker wages have stagnated for fifty years despite increased consumption and cost of living.
It isn’t just that people are dumber than you, there’s a reason these things happen.
We had been wasting RAM like it was free. Nobody was optimizing anything. The impact on actually productive activity will be minimal.
The main danger these companies pose to the economy is when the bubble pops.
Yeah I was going to say, there is a proprietary piece of software they use at work that uses like seven gigs of RAM for no reason.
I don’t know why both of you seem to think that is something gamechanging. You’d think that, if you realized something was being used excessively to cut out labour, that having to use more labour would make whatever that memory was being used to do more expensive, because now there’s increased memory cost and more labour for optimization.
Object permanence.
I think I might have grants to Sue you for the mental damage that was caused by having to read that incoherent nonsense you just wrote. Are you drunk or something because that scent is made absolutely zero since.
Yes…and the prices of those things will definitely not go down when anything crucial becomes more expensive. They’re not going to lower prices just because software has to be better optimized now, because guess what’s gonna cost more in labour now too.
You’re still thinking it’s about gaming. Yes, the fact that these few companies own this supply is not economically sustainable, when was the last time they let a bubble actually pop without funneling state wealth into keeping it going? These financialization models are too convoluted, almost like this has been going on for a long fucking while; which means we should not assume we can guess when it will “pop.”
Serious question, not sarcastic - which services are now significantly more expensive specifically because of increased RAM prices?
This is obviously a bubble because the product being sold cannot deliver revenues to match its valuation. That doesn’t imply we can predict exactly when it will pop.
bud, if the memory is more expensive, elements throughout a computer reliant economy becomes more expensive. Have you thought the insane inflation of prices on everything over the past two years is just for fun? Just because of the oil?
The services and products I was referring to as far as computation goes is regarding anything tech related. They’re not going to decrease the price of devices or software anywhere because this represents a fundamental increase in production cost that also leads to other costs through the labour to actually make shit work on what consumers can afford. The profit margins were already reliant on exploitative labour and resource extraction practices, and it is required to continue to increase by any means necessary.
We live in a capitalist system, no not the one you learned about on Twitter or in highschool, but the real one where progressive, infinite growth is necessary for the system to function, and neoliberal politics has very effectively secured state funding for corporate interests over the past five decades. You’re in Canada? Mark Carney’s markedly neoliberal response to the '08 crisis (axeing prime and encouraging spending) is why we had a housing “bubble” for over a fucking decade with a decline in market value being met not with a “pop,” but with subsidies by the state that secures even more property for private capital.
You are thinking things work they way they don’t because you haven’t effectively challenged your understanding of what this system is at a fundamental level. There is no capitalist world where a “pop,” happens and your wealth doesn’t get extracted to recover that loss for capitalists.
bud, if the memory is more expensive, elements throughout a computer reliant economy becomes more expensive. Have you thought the insane inflation of prices on everything over the past two years is just for fun? Just because of the oil?
Are you implying that you think the inflation is because of RAM prices? If so, then you’re being a little condescending about an awfully huge leap, akin to wtfhappenedin1971 links blaming it on monetary inflation.
I love that other elements of inflation are present in that exact section you quoted, and you still just assumed I was too dumb to know that memory isn’t the most important thing in the world, even though you clearly haven’t spent enough time learning about this yourself.
No, it isn’t just memory, but, like oil, computer components are a fundamental element of our capitalist economy, which means it effects the entire system, not just your rgb gamur hardware. Read the rest of the comment.
I’m sorry, but I’ve read your comment and I’m having a tough time differentiating what you’re saying from blaming the inflation on RAM prices.
If you aren’t saying that, then how would you know how much of the inflation is due to RAM?
Joke’s on them, I found other hobbies.
One of the benefits of AI, we either keep older HW longer or help to increase inflation by replacing. All this in the hope that people get value for chatting up a machine.
More billion (or trillion) parameters give exponentially less return, and they keep adding parameters (which also increases the cost exponentially) anyway. This is just one of the infinite signs that those companies don’t give a single f*** about society or the well being of the population.
Test yourself on Ollama now, since the servers are way more stable as of now. Deepseek-4.1 is just as good as GPT-6.
Edit: you have to create an interface with tools for using Ollama Cloud, and this isn’t exactly directly available as of now, so keep that in mind before signing in.
Edit2: Deepseek-V4 comparing itself to other models
When Token is more expensive than people, “AI narrative” is in trouble, Chinese
I’d recommend openrouter or something over ollama cloud. Fuck giving meta money. Or a subscription, since those tend to give much more tokens per dollar if utilized properly, I’m going through so many GLM 5.3 flash tokens it’s not even funny, on the cheapest z.ai coding plan, nearly never running out of usage limits, and getting nearly as good results as Claude Opus just a few months ago (like 4.8 or 5, not some old version)
Hey maybe creating a parastatal system that promotes psychopathic greed and wealth accumulation that supersedes the rule of democracy and basic human goals for society wasn’t such a good idea after all.
I stocked up on computers from before 2008/Intel/IME. They still good.
“Intel Inside!”
Yeah no shit can you be less obvious?
Make everything so expensive that only corporations and the rich can afford it, they’ll buy everything and lease it to us “as a service”.
Capitalism is just feudalism with more math.
Unless you can actually afford the ram prices, just play older games. There’s a ton of AAA games that I’ve never played.
Then there’s tons of remastered games too. I haven’t touched those. Older games are affordable and run on max settings with any modern computer.
We already have a life time of quality games and computer parts in circulation.
I think when we look back at this time we will see how new games are optimized and intended to run on lower end hardware rather than the “look how real it is” formula.
A good example is borderlands. Cell shading was created because it was aesthetically pleasing while also consuming the least amount of resources. When optimization and performance were no longer a problem, games like border lands used cell shading but still required all lot of resources.
Last one might need more then a fried potato to run lol
My main computer is 13 years old, with a graphics card that is even older. No, I haven’t played a lot of the newer games, but there are more than enough to keep me occupied and happy that can run perfectly well on my hardware.
It might be different if I was into multiplayer games, but I’m not.
Also indie games tend to be quite good, I’m currently playing Obenseuer and my buddy and I are doing a run of Abiotic Factor with Valheim and possibly Permafrost on the list. Have to see how Permafrost plays.
Still playing tf2 <3
Are you a furry, a queer or a nazi? (Not exclusive) (Im pootis man)
I love how these, accurately, are the only people playing TF2. Of those now i am queer
How about we throw all the republicans in prison and use their brains for processing power
That amount of processing power wouldn’t play Doom.
If we link them all together we might be able to manage pong
It’d be funny to force crysis on them anyways.
I’d be in favor of putting Trump and his ilk in prison, but explicitly still letting him campaign and run his grifts. Here’s the deal though… He doesn’t get any real money for it, he just gets “prison bucks” that get him nicer treatment/amenities. We take all the actual money he generates from grifting, and use it to fund education in the areas that lost the most money in the con.
It’s a double whammy to find hotspots of the stupidest, most gullible people on the planet, and also getting their children properly educated and able to recognize and avoid the same scams their parents fell for.
We should organize raiding parties on data centers to get PC parts, pirate style yarrrr, and disrupt AI while doing it. Burn it down to leave no trace.
Jokes on you we will soon be raiding data centers for fresh water
Two birds…two birds
Because what are we going to do with PC parts when we don’t have any electricity anymore. Sadface
Pull in close and fire grapeshot broadside!
Jam the robot guard dogs and use thermite to burn through locks you mean. Break open the server racks, grab the loot, burn the rest.
Please don’t shoot frag into the booty you want to loot.
