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      It sounds horrible, but I think we lost something when we made it impossible to get away with fighting someone for doing stupid shit. There’s too many cameras now and, even if they started it by doing something antagonistic, you’ll be arrested and held accountable because they technically didn’t assault you. If this happened in like the 50s (discounting race and everything else, only his actions), he’d get his ass kicked. Everyone around would likely support it.

      Now, the only social system to punish them is shaming, and shaming them is exactly what they want. Shaming them gives them publicity. Publicity gets them money. Literally the best option is to ignore them, which absolutely does nothing to stop it, but at least it doesn’t encourage it.

      I’m not saying we should go back to the 50s. I’m only saying that sometimes people need consequences, like you said. If the legal system can’t provide it, we need an extra-legal solution, and we don’t have that anymore. We did in the past, though it was often used for evil (lynching and lots of racist/homophobic/other-phobic stuff), it also served a purpose.

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        Agreed. Shame is weaponized by the shameless, especially in our “attention as currency” culture, and other consequences are necessary to maintain a polite self-policed society. I think a lot of laws about this kind of thing were written for legal expediency over sociological improvement.

        I do believe some places have “mutual combat” and “fighting words” clauses.

        Basically, if you’re willingly antagonizing and harassing somehody with insults and/or threats, especially depending on severity, they get some leeway in shutting you up if asking nicely doesn’t help.

        Mutual combat is basically the law being looser when “two people agreed to fight each other” which, I dunno, it felt worth mentioning lol.

        Unfortunately I think we’re seeing a breakdown of humans keeping each other in check and willingness to act based on a severely litigious society (engaging with the law can quickly ruin your life even if you’re innocent), and adult expectations mimicking the inneffectual “zero tolerance” policies of failed school systems, where any physical contact for any reason is your fault, and you’re supposed to go tattle to government and let them slowly do nothing if somebody is being a problem.

        On one hand, you’re right, at least this legal framework somewhat prevents mobs of violent vigilantes enforcing their views on others, but also it cushions and lessens the burden of responsibility from malignant social parasites (like this guy, and the ones in office).

        *I assert that this comment is entirely opinion and I’m by no means a lawyer. This should be obvious because Internet. Lol

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        Sure people tried, just slapping about and I assume he enjoyed the attention. Like the other Vile social media guy that got arrested in Thailand ( Asia) when he gets out he’ll just be even more vile.

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        Because in Japan, they’d be had for battery. Even self defense in Japan as defined as enough, and only enough, to flee in most cases; punching someone who punches you doesn’t qualify if you can remove yourself from the situation otherwise.

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          Oh yeah, I’m aware. But there are plenty of dudes down here that probably wouldn’t have hesitated anyway had they crossed paths with this idiot.

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    Fucker only had 5k of followers. That’s as many as a guy I know who does Battletech videos. Dumbass.

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    “Distributing sexual deepfakes”.

    Yeah, that sounds a lot more serious than simply harassing people, yet it’s only mentioned for a single sentence here.

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    While I’m glad he got the sentence I was sure that he would get more, especially after all the disrespect he showed during trial.

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      actually a Clout WHORe, hes trying to gain noteriety so he can grift off of viewers. he isnt EVEN original at all, other influencers have tried the same thing he has and failed. he aint no mr beast, ksi, or sniperwolf.

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    Well not really for public nuisance, it was about “distributing sexual deepfakes”.

    Oh but I am sure threatening the judge thing did not help.

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    dumbass is just going to treat it like a twitch ban and is looking forward to 6 months from now on his first stream back where he’s going to get a shit ton of viewers and thus a lot of money.

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      Twitch didn’t ban him permanently for harassing people in public as part of his content?

      I guess they still have the Nazi WoW player that thinks he’s a political streamer still though. So I guess I’m not surprised.

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        asmongold i assume, who tries to look like both side, he hasnt done anything as stupid as they “prank streamers”

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          He said Palestinians deserved to be genocided. So, I’d say he’s up near the top of the worst piece of shit streamers. Definitely the top if you’re considering audience size too.

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    I don’t suppose there’s any prisoner swaps with North Korean hard labour camps is there?

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      Fair is fair… North Korea was sending balloons filled with garbage over the border for a while - might be time to send some back.

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      Might be able to work something out. The South Korean president is trying to normalize relations with the North and formally end the war I believe.

      I mean. The entire world needs to apologize to the leaders of the North. At least on world politics matter. They literally got nukes, flexed them, and then left the rest of the world alone only to be proven correct about the need to obtain nukes to remain sovereign and not get invaded.

      Iran and Ukraine learned the hard way.

      If you have nukes, don’t give them up! Even if you don’t have launch codes. Doesn’t matter. Don’t give up those nukes.

      If you don’t have nukes but someone says “they’re trying to build nukes”; you fucking build nukes as fast as possible. Even if you had no plans to.