I once had a Walmart employee follow me out of the building and start banging on my window screaming at me they're calling the cops
Why?
I, while using a cane in one hand and the other occupied by a bag of dog food that was making me regret not waiting for a scooter, didn't stop to chat with the old woman who was arbitrarily checking people's receipts.
I told him he's lucky I'm more level headed than most of my neighbors, because he would have been shot the moment he banged on glass and yelled, but if they want my receipt they can go watch the fucking cameras because I have somewhere to be.
Could I have handled it more calmly and with more understanding? Probably. But if you follow me out into the parking lot and start screaming at me, consider all respect lost, all decency dropped. You get back what you came in with.
Literally, the only reason I even went to Walmart is because the pet store I get the good food from had their registers all crash and wouldn't start back up.
A loss prevention guy followed my sister to her car after dark once, he thought she took something and wanted to check her receipt. she was sobbing cause she thought she was about to get raped. Loss prevention officers are just idiotic jackasses who aren't smart enough to do anything else.
I just smile and say "no thank you" and keep going. There's nothing they can do unless they actually think you stole something and they don't have the manpower to detain everyone who won't stop for their receipt check.
Note though that doesn't apply to Sam's Club or Costco or similar, if you're a "member" there you agreed to the checks.
They can't detain you even if they think you have stolen, though (from a store policy perspective). There's a reason all these stores train employees "observe don't interfere".
so long as the shopkeeper has cause to believe that the person detained in fact committed, or attempted to commit, theft
Shop keepers privilege can't be used as a reason to detain customers for a receipt check. They don't have "cause" as they did not see the person concealing anything.
That's true! Receipt checks can get lost! I was replying to "They can’t detain you even if they think you have stolen" though. The "can't" is a store policy thing, not a law thing.
It doesn't matter what Walmart or anyone except Costco (part of membership contract) and probably Sam's club (contract again) says. Once you've purchased it they have NO legal right to inspect and you have NO legal obligations to stop.
That being said I know the folks doing that job are not assholes so I will politely refuse and wish them a nice day.
In DC they they have the same type of legal witness called special police. Once one tried to stop me and I refused saying , "Call the police if you think I stole something" and kept going.
I'm not going to be harassed by employees after I've legally purchased profucts.
Please note if you are planning on running a scam or sneaking shit out, don't draw attention to yourself. One law at a time is the rule.
Not saying it is right, but shopkeepers can legally detain customers long enough to figure out if a theft happened. They have to have a reason to suspect it, though.
Fuck em anyway, I pay for my shit and unless it’s a real cop who might shoot me if I twitch funny, I ain’t stopping for shit.
If they don’t want to pay for cashiers, they can deal with people stealing shit. Walmart especially is a corp on welfare, they have the most employees receiving food stamps and Medicaid than any other company. I don’t really care if the government subsidized megacorp loses money every year, they aren’t providing worthwhile jobs anyway.
I once had a Walmart employee follow me out of the building and start banging on my window screaming at me they're calling the cops
Why?
I, while using a cane in one hand and the other occupied by a bag of dog food that was making me regret not waiting for a scooter, didn't stop to chat with the old woman who was arbitrarily checking people's receipts.
I told him he's lucky I'm more level headed than most of my neighbors, because he would have been shot the moment he banged on glass and yelled, but if they want my receipt they can go watch the fucking cameras because I have somewhere to be.
Could I have handled it more calmly and with more understanding? Probably. But if you follow me out into the parking lot and start screaming at me, consider all respect lost, all decency dropped. You get back what you came in with.
Literally, the only reason I even went to Walmart is because the pet store I get the good food from had their registers all crash and wouldn't start back up.
Since when did Walmart check receipts anyway?
A loss prevention guy followed my sister to her car after dark once, he thought she took something and wanted to check her receipt. she was sobbing cause she thought she was about to get raped. Loss prevention officers are just idiotic jackasses who aren't smart enough to do anything else.
When that guy gets maced or tasered, I would happily laugh in his face and tell him he deserved it.
How did the thought "I should follow this lone woman out to her car in the dark" pass through his mind…
I just smile and say "no thank you" and keep going. There's nothing they can do unless they actually think you stole something and they don't have the manpower to detain everyone who won't stop for their receipt check.
Note though that doesn't apply to Sam's Club or Costco or similar, if you're a "member" there you agreed to the checks.
They can't detain you even if they think you have stolen, though (from a store policy perspective). There's a reason all these stores train employees "observe don't interfere".
Shopkeeper's privilege does exist, many stores simply choose not to exercise it.
As I mentioned, "from a store policies perspective". The shrinkage isn't worth the liability and risk for Walmart.
Shop keepers privilege can't be used as a reason to detain customers for a receipt check. They don't have "cause" as they did not see the person concealing anything.
That's true! Receipt checks can get lost! I was replying to "They can’t detain you even if they think you have stolen" though. The "can't" is a store policy thing, not a law thing.
i really want to get tackled so i can sue
now i always DEMAND that they scan my groceries for me
It doesn't matter what Walmart or anyone except Costco (part of membership contract) and probably Sam's club (contract again) says. Once you've purchased it they have NO legal right to inspect and you have NO legal obligations to stop. That being said I know the folks doing that job are not assholes so I will politely refuse and wish them a nice day.
In DC they they have the same type of legal witness called special police. Once one tried to stop me and I refused saying , "Call the police if you think I stole something" and kept going.
I'm not going to be harassed by employees after I've legally purchased profucts.
Please note if you are planning on running a scam or sneaking shit out, don't draw attention to yourself. One law at a time is the rule.
Not saying it is right, but shopkeepers can legally detain customers long enough to figure out if a theft happened. They have to have a reason to suspect it, though.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopkeeper's_privilege
Loss prevention can, random cashiers cannot.
Fuck em anyway, I pay for my shit and unless it’s a real cop who might shoot me if I twitch funny, I ain’t stopping for shit.
If they don’t want to pay for cashiers, they can deal with people stealing shit. Walmart especially is a corp on welfare, they have the most employees receiving food stamps and Medicaid than any other company. I don’t really care if the government subsidized megacorp loses money every year, they aren’t providing worthwhile jobs anyway.
Lol you should have done it, Rambo.