I'd exchange Reddit and X. The rate at which X is going downhill right now just cannot be beaten by anything.
Agreed. I mean I never expected Elon to be smart but good god is that dude an idiot. Everyone reading this could 100% do a better job in his shoes.
Came here to say this. X is doing worse than Reddit.
Twitter(/X - such a bullshit crappy name) is the Kmart of web 2.0 companies. Just a husk of what it was and in a massive free fall decline.
Yeah the thing that people are upset about reddit for with rate limited apps is something twitter did years ago. Then theres the everything else involved on twitter and its not even close.
Does this reflect how the platform is actually doing or do we just like the circlejerk of wishing they would fail? Because everything I've seen says Reddit has been completely unaffected by the changes made and they're still getting more user signups, engagements and interaction/posts than ever.
Tik Tok also seems to be growing strong.
Twitter is a genuine laughing stalk and is pulling major shit…but everyone still seems to be using it regularly.
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I don't save sources in case of future need for references. I haven't written a thesis on the matter. It came up in a few articles in my tech news RSS feeds. You're welcome to not believe me and I would readily consider contrary information anyone else offers it.
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I believe that s shifting the burden of proof.
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If popularity was all that mattered, McDonalds would have Michelin stars.
Yeah Reddit just became more like Facebook which is disappointing, but not a dumpster fire.
Twitter is a radioactive dumpster fire that's spawning mutant fire rats. There's really no comparison.
I just have a hard time believing this when the_donald started on reddit. The site has been an incubator for right wing actors for years. Even the infamous Stormfront recognized the opportunities for recruitment there years ago.
Reddit is driven by search traffic and the results got a lot worse since a lot of good posters quit. They lost the content but not the users yet, I think it's just going to take a long time before they truly see the damage in their traffic statistics!
The google-Reddit search got really screwed up when the private subs numbered 7-8000. I’m curious if there have been any lingering effects.
We can take a look at the comment count on major subreddits over time. Using the top 5 most commented listed on Subreddit Stats, and then using Social Rise to see comments per day (go down to "Graph of" and click "comments").
- https://social-rise.com/subreddit-analysis/askreddit
- https://social-rise.com/subreddit-analysis/AmItheAsshole
- https://social-rise.com/subreddit-analysis/Starfield
- https://social-rise.com/subreddit-analysis/AITAH
- https://social-rise.com/subreddit-analysis/NoStupidQuestions
All except Starfield show comments cratering at the beginning of July, and they're not coming back. Obviously, Starfield is a special case given the release of the game. AITAH was also just starting to pick up and then had its jugular cut out. Across the board, there looks to be a 3 or 4 times reduction in comment rates.
Now, perhaps the site is still OK among the more niche subreddits. That'd take a lot longer to analyze. But it's clear the big traffic drivers are not pulling people in anymore.
While I overall agree this seems to be the case at first glance, I do notice that august there’s a huge drop that correlates with school starting up again. Probably need to compare to previous summers.
Edit: looks like it's still pretty huge even accounting for that
The graphs there go back to 2018. There aren't drops anywhere close to what we're seeing.
Good to know, i was having trouble on mobile with it. Thanks!
I'm glad I left that site. They just view us all as little addicts and have lost any semblance of caring about what made reddit work in the first place.
Crazy how TikTok don't even seem so bad anymore thanks to the other two completely fucking imploding.
I feel like it's unfair to include TikTok as it had a clear headstart by being a dumpster fire since the very start.
Musical.ly certainly was a thing.
There's metagame factors to this.
Reddit users often hate Reddit but feel stuck in it without alternatives that they can accept.
Twitter (it's not X, fuck that silly aging "peaked in the XTREME 90s" divorce dad nonsense, I hope he cries more about it  ) has lost a lot of users and the ones that are left are devoted cultists that pay money for relevance symbols on their accounts.  
TikTok has people that are hooked on the algorithm to the point that they may not bother even participating in any such survey because it isn't on TikTok.
Great article. Well worth reading.
Oh great! The TikTok haters escaped from Reddit too!
Elons shenanigans has to be worse than spez surely
Spez just copies what daddy Musk does, so give it some time
I feel like unity is the most likely to die. Their users are way more likely to switch to an alternative than people using reddit
Unity alternatives are also way more known than reddit or twitter alternatives
But the alternatives aren't as developed. Godot still isn't great for 3D projects and Unreal is Epic and also has royalty fees like Unity tried to add.
Unreal only has a 5% fee on games that made over 1 million USD
Unity wanted to add a 0.20 USD tax for every download after you made 200K USD 200K users(which changes depending on how many downloads your game has and which plan you are using)
Units pricing method could have been easily exploited, game developers would have to pay for people pirating their games, if a free to play game reached those requirments, it could cost them more than the game made, giveaways would cost game developers money and all unity games would have to collect data
Indies yes but the big dick billion dollar in MTX mobile market won't shift at all.
We really need to get people to get the word out on Lemmy.
I'm on the fence on this one because on one hand, more content is always a good thing. On the other, more people will bring the attention of corporate capitalists
isn't threads just facebook trying to muscle in on the fediverse
Its a heavy mixup, but either lemmy dies or its going to get better. Federation has seen a dramatic increase in usership, so I'm thinking its getting bigger. Its inevitable that capitalists are going to see us anyway. We just have to tell them to fuck off. I don't really know what to do besides that lol.
Xitter is now enabling disinformation intentionally. Put ‘em at the top
Well, Tiktok demotes china critical accounts and promotes china friendly ones, people who tried it came to the conclusion that's it's roughly by the factor 10 so they aren't even hiding it!
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Didn't they also use child labour in the US?
I think you might be confusing them with the other major Korean car maker Hyundai but it could have been both!
As bad as any profit first corporation is, or even agenda first profit second corporations, there will never be anything more cringe than helping a hostile foreign dictatorship for vines with music.
China isn't hostile, afaik only the US has been hostile. And claiming that tiktok did that is equivalent to saying random American company is responsible for bombing Iraq
China makes a statement that celebrates whenever something bad happens in the USA. The CCP are very much opposed to the USA. They're also in constant territory disputes with neighboring nations and have recently consumed neighboring nations. TikTok is not a private or public company. It is a military Operation. It is run by military personnel on a military site.
Right, that would make a lot of sense to do about the country that's openly hostile to you. Oh, China has territory disputes with neighbors? The US will literally fucking bomb you to nothing for your oil, and/or stage a false flag coup to overthrow your government if they won't sell them oil. We have also used corporate espionage to rewrite the laws of several South American countries into ineffectiveness, for the benefit of a fruit company. The two are not remotely comparable on foreign policy.
Everything wrong with the USA is worse with China, because China is a literal Militaristic Dictatorship. Kill you for Oil? Check. Genocide? Check. Disappeared by the Intelligence Agency? Check. Internment camps? Sweatshops? Stealing people's land? Taking away their rights and means of defense both physical and legal? China is worse in every imaginable category.
And that makes sense. When society fails to govern itself, then the government treats society like worms. China is an end all threat to all of humanity, itself included.
Literally none of that is true. If it is, provide a source. Who has China gone to full scale war with for their oil? Genocide was made up by a far right grifter named Adrian zenz. You've fallen hardcore American propaganda bro.
China is actively supplying Middle Eastern Nations the same as the USA, and they also claim complete control over Taiwan. They're also funding the Russia-Ukraine war by stockpiling massive amounts of oil from Russia. I think that more than qualifies the "kill you for oil" statement.
No, it doesn't. Taiwan seceded from them, they aren't trying to colonize it. America bombing Iraq and destabilizing SA governments is killing for oil. Buying oil from Russia is not that.
Why is tiktok so high up, It feels like regular shitty social media, not nearly as bad or boring as instagram, facebook, and metaverse.
wait yeah why is tiktok above metaverse lol
gweilos mad, that's literally it
It's a Dictatorship's Military Operation. The app's software is more data theft than it is actually used to run the app. They take everything stored on your device, from photos to text history. All of it. If I were to rate all apps on the basis of harm, Tiktok is miles above anything else.
ever heard of the patriot act, sis?
Replaced in 2015, sis? Turns out Democracy is only way better 90% of the time, but at least it's capable of self-correction.
you're a fool to believe they just gave up the power to control the country. I bet you think the USA is a democra- oh shit yeah you do think that too. Its a plutocracy babe. You dont live in democracy.
Also are you insinuating China doesn't have a democracy, not is capable of self correction? You think westerners have some godgiven ability to be the bestest peoples in da world?
LMAO Bro the CCP is literally a one party system with a "president for life."
Heres a fun thought, you acknowledge that the App does have that data collection software as it has been proven by many independent software reviews, so is it worth it for a person, no matter what other country they come from, to betray their own nation's people and create security risks in order to view and post vines with music?
How does having one party rob the country of having a democracy. Democracies dont have to be your shitty splintered capitalist infighting mess you call governments. Not president for life, he can still be democratically removed from office, he just has no term limits. I think no term limits is more democratic anyway.
Heres a fun thought, you acknowledge that the App does have that data collection software as it has been proven by many independent software reviews, so is it worth it for a person, no matter what other country they come from, to betray their own nation’s people and create security risks in order to view and post vines with music?
So what, anything that would damage the US is good, I don't care lol. Also the software may be in part owned by china, but the heads of the western tiktok division are made up of US national security "retirees" lol.
Having an actual dictator who can only be removed by his close peers makes China a lot more of an Oligopoly than a Communism, my dude. I think by strict definitions the USA is probably more socialist than the CCP.
