• TheFriar@lemm.ee
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    Honestly, this place is full of communists. I’m not the biggest fan of communists, to be frank. There is a lot of backwards ideas that get accepted as “leftist,” when they’re really statist. Particularly revisionist history statist. If a communist party said it, you gotta defend it kinda thing.

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      Define 'full of communists'… cause it sounds like such an american phrase and perspective. To me, it's just a more leftwing centered space. The real communists are a minority. At least on the biggest Lemmy servers.

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        Lol I’m not crying “SOCIALISM!” because someone recommended taking care of poor people. And maybe it’s just the communities on lemm.ee, maybe it’s because I interact with the communities more because I can’t bite my tongue. But I come across way more communist communities than anything else. Your instance matters. I see a lot of communist communities. As an anarchist, the prevalence of communism on lemmy is troubling to me because I see huge flaws in the thinking and i want to see the left not follow down a doomed hierarchical road that has proven to be a failure over and over and over again.

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          Hm might be. On lemmy, the instances you're signed on significantly affect your experience.

          Lemmy world and feddit never gave me such vibes tho. But it might also be because you're indirectly looking for these confrontations.

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            Lemmy.world I think has banned most tankie subs. It wasn’t until the endless problems with lemmy.world that I switched over to lemm.ee and I see way more communist shit, but have way fewer connectivity issues.

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          Yeah but those instances are not nearly as big as lemmyworld and the others. I also didn't say that there were no communists at all. There are just not as many as OP made it out to be.

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            I just checked and you're instance isn't federated with Hexbear so you don't see their users' comments, my instance was federated with them for a couple of days and it made the Lemmy experience a mess.

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              I have more than one account, none of them get many communist posts. Maybe there's one in there in a few rare occasions but it's not significant.

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      I don't identify as a communist. I just don't want life to be unreasonably difficult for people. Thats it. I just what the promise of what labor was supposed to be. I want it to free us from the shackles of work or die. Guess that is extreme left now even with tankies around the corner from us.

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        This. When I was younger I considered myself pretty centrist, generally people would agree. My views never really changed, but the Overton window has shot so far right I now get called a commie (I guess here I'm a tankie? Still dunno wtf that's about except a slur for 'left of Biden') because I think a 40 hour work week should put a basic roof over your head, whether an efficency on your own or a roomie in a nicer spot.

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          (I guess here I’m a tankie? Still dunno wtf that’s about except a slur for ‘left of Biden’)

          As far as I can make out, tankies are people who support communist governments even when they go way too far. So even though leaders like Jinping are essentially dictators, because they're ostensibly communist the tankies support them.

          At least that's what I've seen from a few weeks on lemmy. I'm sure some tankies will be along to correct me soon.

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            Ah, so the thing I still haven't seen happen except for everyone saying it happens to attack leftist instances.

            Oh, and people attacking others for worshipping someone all in when they point to any particular point of a particular person (IE "In regards to X, Lenin said Y" "Oh HeRe We gO aNoThEr LeNiN wOrShiPpInG tAnKiE")

            Of course, I'm sure there's SOMEBODY out here simping for China or whatever, but if that silly small percentage paints all leftists then by their own logic all capitalists should be branded as fascists - WAY more "right" people calling for fascism around here than China worshipperss and whatnot.

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        Not extreme left but it's socialist and isn't consistent with American ideals. You can bitch about that shit if you want but we're in the decay phase after a gluttonous society and you think the answer is communism? You do, you think everyone and everything should be "fair" but life and this country don't work like that.

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          Could be if we tried. The democrats have been neo-lib appeasement artists because they are a part of the ruling class. This system cannot hold. Something will change. We just have to wait and see which way it breaks. Either way, I'm already doing the work to see a world I want. I don't care about the noise. Arguments like "Life ain't fair" are a poor substitute for putting yourself out there. I used to think much the same way. But, I had to do something about how bad it is getting.

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        Exactly. We have 50 years of computer driven exponential growth and not a fucking thing is better for us. We don’t work less, travel more, be richer, live a better life, or have a better future for the planet. It should make everyone anti-capitalist.

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            You’re joking, right? A peasant in the 1200s would work less than a regular person today.

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                    For one, the fact their work (which took significantly less time) lead to a real, objective difference and benefit in their society. There’s also the fact that anyone not enslaved had partial or complete ownership of their lands. Not to be underestimated, as well, is the fact their society wasn’t immediately doomed to collapse from worldwide catastrophes.

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      There is a lot of backwards ideas that get accepted as “leftist,” when they’re really statist.

      This is my objection too.

      All too many people here don't seem to even begin to understand the inherent threats of institutionalized authority, so in their rush to head off the recreation of the Third Reich, they're basically advocating for the recreation of the Khmer Rouge instead.

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        I'm not sure how I identify philosophically but I wholeheartedly beleive that I should have the iron fisted power to drive all the radical christofascist conservatives and their enablers bloody and screaming back into their hovels or over a very high rocky cliff.

        Other than that I am a pretty nice guy.

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          And I dream of a world in which, instead of merely wishing to oppress and murder this group of people instead of that one, people don't wish to oppress and murder anyone.