Dear User,
We will soon begin rolling out changes to Reddit’s User settings. It is getting a refresh that includes changes to ad personalization, privacy preferences, and location settings.
As part of these changes, we are retiring a setting that you have previously turned on that limited how we used your activity from the Reddit platform to personalize ads. We have replaced the setting with a new option to select categories of ads that you may not wish to see.
More details are available in our announcement and help center.
These changes are rolling out starting today and you may see the changes over the next few days.
Users will be tracked with no opt out. Posts may be monetized, which will make content even worse No refund or any type of usable credit for users that spent hundreds on Reddit coins The entire vibe has done a 180° since all these new “positive changes” are rolled out.
I'm new here. I left Reddit yesterday. No looking back.
SAME. Relay for reddonk stopped working, needed updating, and came back with an unavoidable subscription model suggesting i should pay 5.99/mo to continue "enjoying" reddit at my pace. Some people probably would, "oh, what's that one banana a month"? I don't sign in, thus I don't post, comment, vote, reward. This is just me being charged to lurk on a website that forked in ungodly amounts of profit over a reward system they trash canned. Reasonably so because they didn't really reward the user as much as it was just micropaymemts to reddit, and people were noticing. Instead we are "rewarding all 3rd party users by letting them pay to use our content".
Mind you this is on top of reddit recent announcing that they will no longer give you the option to not be tracked, instead replacing it with "tires of ads you can opt out from"
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Is this even legal in the EU?
No.
Looking at Twitter/X, this won't be the final nail. People stick to the platforms they're on as long as it doesn't directly Negative impacts them too much.
The difference, I think, which may make it easier to switch is that, on Twitter, you follow specific people. On Reddit, you only subscribe to specific communities, many of which have already been replicated in some way on Lemmy. You can't replicate people, though.
Yet.I think you forgot that Mastodon exists. Either that or you simply refuse to mention it because it's so desolate in there.
No, I didn't forget it. It's just that the "specific people" haven't moved over to Mastodon, so people who follow those specific people haven't moved over.
The "specific communities" (or at least the large ones) have moved over or been copied to Lemmy, so it's easier for people who subscribe to those communities to move over.
I understand your point.
I deleted my reddit accounts and signed up to lemm.ee today b/c of the advert policy change.
Noice. I still use Reddit on desktop occasionally, but haven’t touched mobile since the api change.
Nobody who remains there gives a fuck.
It sucked going from Boost to the official Reddit app and this I don't really care about but what got me to come here today was my feeds in the official Reddit app have been stale for the last several days and it's seems to have forgot what subreddits my account is in. I can go to a subreddit I'm subscribed to and see fresh posts but all the built in views Home/Popular/News… All have content I saw hours ago or yesterday… Why do I want to use an app that shows me old posts and makes me hunt down new ones of interest?
I'm posting this comment from "Boost for Lemmy" to make me feel that I'm still on Reddit lmao
Same! That's what I'm using! I had Boost for Lemmy set to pre download or whatever and this morning when looking for my Reddit fix and being dissatisfied with Reddit I was like… Wait a minute, what happened to Boost for Lemmy? I wanted to check that out sometime and started using it lol
Why would you go to the official reddit app? I continued using Relay until it stopped working yesterday, but Stealth and Red Reader still work just fine and are FOSS. Red Reader was given dispensation for being a disability app IIRC.
Boost for Reddit is what I'm use to so my plan was to jump ship when the Boost for Lemmy app came out but the download tried to happen when I wasn't on WiFi and I forgot to install it. With my recent feed issues I remember I was planning to jump ship
I jumped from boost for Reddit to sync for Lemmy. No regrets loving it.
Edit: just realised boost for lemmy is available now too
Its good I don't use reddit anymore
I don’t think this will move the needle at all
Reddit mods had a chance to migrate but decided to sit and wait thinking they could change Reddit
It's not about the needle, it's about how Reddit acts during its death throes.
Reddit can't make money unless they monetize every user in every way possible, including selling their personal data if they have it. The API garbage was an attempt to monetize users in ways even their own app doesn't, and also an admission that advertising isn't paying the bills, or they would have just started advertising through the API.
So now we're seeing how Reddit behaves once they realize that charging for API access doesn't work. They will sell everyone and everything until they shut down.
People should have assumed they were before
Reddit mods
I know tons of mods that left reddit and are on lemmy instances now. Had a chance to migrate? what does that even fucking mean, we can't bring subreddits over. we can't hold a gun to the subreddit population and say "goto lemmy now" and most of us were locked out by reddit for shuttering our subreddits anyway, and replaced with scabs.
Explain yourself for this shit take.
When the big subs had their vacations they had to put their lemmy instance (or other place of migration) on the page
most of us were locked out by reddit for shuttering our subreddits anyway, and replaced with scabs.
Hence the lost their chance
So it's mods fault reddit went all musk? get fucked
It’s the fault of mods who tried shutting down subs instead of moving people
Anyone with a brain would know shutting down a sub would just see them being replaced so the ones doing that were just providing scapegoat outrage to keep people on Reddit
Yeah it.should have been done on day 1
"Two days broooo"
Nah, they just don't want to lose their god given right (and status) to be volunteer mods of reddits.
you underestimate people's complacency and inertia, in no way this is end of reddit
Yeah, people think tracking you for ads will dissuade anyone? Like, Instagram has a content to ad ratio of 33%, and people give zero fucks.
I don't think people will ever leave, and I don't think we should want them to leave either. We can build better, smaller platforms much more easily than we can't fix the world's attitude and consumption trends towards the large ones.
I mean, having some users isn’t the same as having a ton of users using the product for hours a day. They can still say people are using it, but it’s far from how it used to be (actually goes for Instagram and Facebook as well). There will always be people still using them, but for less time and getting less enjoyment out of it. The majority of users will not use it much at all, only out of some sense of necessity. Instagram and Facebook are literally unusable in my opinion due to ads and sponsored content, most people I know that used to spend hours on those two sites now barely use them at all, and that’s the direction Reddit wants to head in.
I had been using Relay for Reddit Pro until today, the API finally switched over and it doesn't work without updating and paying a subscription.
I had already been 50/50, now I can only access the terrible Reddit application on my phone, so I guess Lemmy is all I have on mobile.
No opt out? Expect trouble from the EU.
One thing holding me back from stopping to use reddit as a whole is using old.reddit in the browser. Can't stand the new design, and once they remove that option - never looking back for real.
On mobile, Lemmy all the way.
Can I interest you to old reddit like theme in Lemmy.
More here
https://gist.github.com/rystaf/4d591ffdcbaab1c49efa406885efd814
interesting, thanks! and it also looks identical. bookmarking this right away
This looks awesome! How about a clone of the reddit website that masks as a MSN webclient?
That's where I'm at. I only access reddit from a browser using old.reddit.com these days. Once that option is taken from me, I'm gone.
With RES of course
tbh I can't understand why people liked old reddit sorry I'm a zoomer idiot but still can someone help me understand?
More lightweight = faster and more content on the screen? Nowadays cool looking websites are slow and with 25% margin on both sides.
I feel the same all annoyed for example when doing some extensive search on PC vs mobile. No matter if it's a shopping hunt on ebay or gathering information. On PC i scroll-click 10 links, iterate through them, Ctrl+w the ones being useless and chosing/read betwend the ones left. Something unclear? Double Ctrl+C and deepl pops up with a translation.
5min on PC vs 20min on mobile, where I have to click each link, fight those pop ups and cookies consent, go back, wait anoyingly long 2 second webpage loads and repeat.
For discussions and news and long form text it's infinitely easier to browse and read in the old layout. The new one is designed for media and for making you quickly jump between threads
I'm more of a list person than someone who prefers cards type of style. With a list, I find it easier to navigate and get a better overview of everything, rather than seeing just a few posts at a time without scrolling.
I used to use reddit with Reddit Enhancement Suite (RES), a browser add-on/extension that has tons of customizations. This was even before there was an old/new reddit, it was just reddit.
So it's not that we chose to use "old" reddit, it was that we chose not to use "new" reddit. Going to the new design breaks RES and we would've missed out on all of those customizations and quality-of-life features that were missing without it.
Plus, "new" reddit is designed for doom-scrolling and serving adds, and not about promoting users to engage in dialog. Most of my reddit interaction was around niche content, where I actually dived deep into threads. New reddit got in the way of that.
thanks
It's like reading a endless wall of text on old reddit. New reddit has so much more white space
oh ok thanks
I've found myself in the same boat.
Not sure how I feel about it, but it's interesting to see someone else commenting about doing the same.
Well, I've kept my reddit account as I use it occasionally from desktop… Guess it's time to finally say goodbye.
Sounds like it violates gdpr
Won't be rolled out in GDPR countries, for sure.
This is America.
I don't like reddit… But here's my question though, since lemmy is federated and all that data is available for access… what's stopping anyone to integrate into the system, collect it all, analyze it and sell it?
Good job. You now have tons of data. Where do you show the ads?
The other websites you track the user to.
How are you tracking them to other sites? There's not really anything that links a user account to an actual person in the data that gets federated.
Good thing it's anonymized as fuck and lemmy does not have an official app that tracks it either. Scraping isn't cheap and the upside is basically nothing.
So, what is the point of buying said data if it's all available for access?
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Somebody is going to detect that and hopefully fediverse will defederate from those instances
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