I’m just tired. On the last post about having Linux at our work, many people that seems to be an IT worker said there have been several issues with Linux that was not easy to manipulate or control like they do with Windows, but I think they just are lazy to find out ways to provide this support. Because Google forces all their workers to use Linux, and they have pretty much control on their OS as any other Windows system.

Linux is a valid system that can be used for work, just as many other companies do.

So my point is, the excuse of “Linux is not ready for workplaces” could be just a lack of knowledge of the IT team and/or a lack of intention to provide to developers the right tools to work.

  • blkpws@lemmy.mlOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    30
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Well, there are virus as any kind of device that runs any logic, the thing here is that is harder to get hacked than with this kind of tools that Windows uses.

    And I mean getting viruses like this:

    So yeah, I don’t need many apps that my Mac has and could be used to hack me with 0 click interaction or with valid Windows certified programs. Still, the “no virus” is not the only reason, updating a Linux system is just a few seconds and your work could have their own repository mirrored and monitored.

    • 3laws@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      33
      ·
      1 year ago

      hack me with 0 click interaction

      That’s very doable on Linux too.

      In other comment you said something along the lines of “just hire an expert”. They charge way more by the hour.

      Maintaining a distro for this very reason will never look ‘cheaper’ for executives. Trust me. They rather pay you to see stuff that has CLEAR and FAST deliverables, that’s what they do what they do, make/save money; take shortcuts.

      • blkpws@lemmy.mlOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        11
        ·
        1 year ago

        Well, I think they are expensive because they are actually experts, not like random IT hired personal that (in my case) couldn’t even understand how OAuth works.

      • blkpws@lemmy.mlOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        18
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        I know about this issue, I have read about it already. No one uses this unless noobs watching YouTube tutorials.

        Cannot be compared to the vulnerabilities I pasted (0 click exploit). Any system can be hacked, Linux is the most used OS and still have fewer viruses issues as others, but it still has as any system has.

        • Superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          19
          ·
          1 year ago

          The linux kernel is not completely secure by default, neither is any specific distribution. No internet connected device could possibly be “set and forget”. Security can not be taken lightly

        • Tibert@compuverse.uk
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          14
          ·
          1 year ago

          Wtf are you talking about. Linux isn’t a distro.

          And the example isn’t a “only noobs use it”.

          It’s an example of an exploit existing since many years. And which could have appeared in a random package, while staying invisible.

          • blkpws@lemmy.mlOP
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            6
            ·
            1 year ago

            I said distro instead OS, Linux is the most used OS, many people behind working in secure the Linux environment. The example of this exploit also exists on Mac and Windows for years, and it will always happen.

            An admin user will know what they are doing, and I doubt they will install a package from an external source downloaded randomly on internet, for the non-admin users, without sudo they can’t install/infect that malware on your Linux.

            • Cypher@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              I said distro instead OS, Linux is the most used OS,

              Wrong, Linux totals 3% of the desktop market which is what’s being discussed in the original post.

              many people behind working in secure the Linux environment.

              Many people work on securing Windows so your point is…?

              The example of this exploit also exists on Mac and Windows for years, and it will always happen.

              Whataboutism.

              An admin user will know what they are doing, and I doubt they will install a package from an external source downloaded randomly on internet, for the non-admin users, without sudo they can’t install/infect that malware on your Linux.

              Wrong. This is so wrong. The most common and effective attacks start with phishing people who think they know better. A user downloading a zip or rar file is enough, they don’t need to be an admin or have sudo rights.

              Seriously just stop talking about a topic you have zero knowledge on. I suggest you do a SANS course if you’re actually interested in learning.

              • blkpws@lemmy.mlOP
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                1 year ago

                Wrong, Linux totals 3% of the desktop market which is what’s being discussed in the original post.

                There are more servers than users in this world, even your car runs Linux.

                • Cypher@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  Linux can be used at your workplaces

                  Yea given that Linux servers are already commonplace it is clear you were referring to Desktops.

                  You’re garbage at this, the worst kind of advocate Linux could have.

                  • blkpws@lemmy.mlOP
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    1 year ago

                    WTF, you look like having a bad day, because of my lack of English knowledge doesn’t give you freedom to insult me.

                    EDIT: I think you are just insulting me, but if Linux is the most used OS means the support should be awesome… worldwide support… while this malware could happen on Linux but also on Apple and of course on Windows, there will be always malware… so at least let’s make one really good as it is right now Linux (with support for old computers, means it’s not forcing users to keep upgrading their hardware), and that’s the reason it is the most used, fits everywhere. Windows only have the monopoly and Apple the “think different” thing (and they give special focus for designers and is Unix, sadly docker is still virtualized).

    • Cypher@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      20
      ·
      1 year ago

      These sort of vulnerabilities exist on Linux and the software deployed on Linux.

      You are spreading dangerous misinformation with claims that Linux doesn’t have “viruses”.

        • Cypher@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          You linked the screenshot, defended the claim with whataboutism and then dissembled with this.

          Still, the “no virus” is not the only reason

          You could have simply said

          Yes the claim that Linux has “no viruses” is wrong but other points are still valid.

          Though I would seriously question any points made by someone claiming there’s no malicious software targeting Linux.

          • blkpws@lemmy.mlOP
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            1 year ago

            “no virus” is because it’s literal extracted from the text, not my words. I explain then what I understand with saying “no virus”, as any device can have virus, JavaScript runs on Linux, Windows and Apple. It’s common sense. No need explanation.