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    What service do landlords offer? Every property I’ve ever rented myself or seen from my friends is falling apart and shitty for an insane amount of money each month. If landlords charged half as much as they do maybe you’d have a leg to stand on.

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        No they don’t, they charge people to live in property that they own. That’s not “providing” housing, that’s profiting off of someone else’s need.

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          Rental property owners charge for the service of providing housing. Home Depot charges for the service of renting their tools. The bouncy house places charge for the service of renting their bouncy houses.

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            shelter is a human necessity. It is wrong to hoard shelter while there are people who have none.

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              Rental property owners don’t hoard shelter. The whole point is to provide housing to individuals and families.

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                hoard (verb.)
                To accumulate money, food, or the like, in a hidden or carefully guarded place for preservation, future use, etc.

                Rental property owners don’t hoard shelter.

                I might be inclined to agree with you if landlords took out the locks and made those empty rental properties into interim homeless shelters, but we both know they would never do it.

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                  Rental properties aren’t hidden. There’s no cloak of invisibility spell surrounding them. So your definition doesn’t apply.

                  Rental properties aren’t empty except during renovation or between tenants. So your second assertion also doesn’t apply.

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                providing and selling are 2 different things (renting is just selling the limited use of something)

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                    So every business is a provider in your eyes? You would say that McDonald’s provides food for everyone? That’s ridiculous and not the way anyone uses the word provide it’s just been brought into landlording to make leeches feel better about themselves

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            You aren’t doing yourself any favors bringing home depot into this, the owners are also greedy cunts.

            There’s also a huge difference between something that protects you from the elements and renting a tool. There is no fundamental need for a tool, there is a fundamental need for shelter.

            With how invested you are on your side, I wouldn’t be surprised to see you admit that you’re a landlord.

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              Home Depot is just one example. Any other example works.

              People can grow their own food but choose to use the grocery store. The grocery store charges more for the food than they pay for it, because they’re providing a service.

              Pharmacies sell medication and people buy from them. They are providing a service of having all the medication in one place.

              People trade money for goods OR services. That’s how the economy operates.

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        So they’re giving the housing to those in need for free, or at the very least at cost? That would be “providing” housing.

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          That’s not the definition in the slightest. You don’t seem to have an understanding of what a landlord does.

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                A landlord takes property off the market and provides housing that costs more than mortgage payments.

                FTFY

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                  A landlord does not take housing off the market. Rental housing is still on the market for families to live in.

                  Rent costs more than mortgage payments because it includes the payment for services to the owner. If you work a job you expect to get paid for your work and so does the landlord.

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                    I said they take property off the market, not housing. By buying it and holding it indefinitely, that property is no longer available for purchasing.

                    Yes, services. Services that an owner could very well get done himself/herself without the bureaucratic overhead of having to use the landlord as an intermediary to a contractor.

                    The only landlords that could get things done faster than doing it yourself are those who have contractors and supplies on call. In other words, management companies or multiple-property landlords—the same ones who are in it solely to profit from the lack of available housing in urban areas.

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                They buy all the houses and put them up on a subscription service that costs more than what the person would’ve paid for it and keep increasing the prices every month.

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                  When someone is on a lease, the rent amount cannot increase during the lease period. At the end of the lease period, the person is free to move somewhere else.

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                If the mortgage payment is the SAME or MORE as the rent, you aren’t providing shit.

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                  That’s incorrect. Houses need maintenance. They are not self healing. Things break, items need replacing, grass needs to be cut, light bulbs need to be changed, etc. Tenants also need to be managed.

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                    Interesting that every rental I’ve been in is in some state of disrepair, if that’s what you claim the extra is for. You’re purposely avoiding the fact that rentals are there to make the landlord money, and nothing more.