EDIT: Getting a ton of great responses thanks everyone <3 Once this is up for 24 hours or so I’ll make another edit summarizing everyone’s recs for future reference. Keep ‘em coming!

TL;DR Have any recs for non-Apple phones/laptops that have lifespans of at least 5+ years?

Wanted to get everyone’s opinion on want brands/products have worked for them. I’m lightly techy and not afraid to put some effort in, but also don’t want to build everything from scratch. I think Apple’s products are often anti-consumer, anti-privacy, anti-yadda yadda yadda.

At the same time, with both phones and laptops, I’ve found my Apple products to have double or even triple the lifespan of any other brand. I did my research and bought a $1000+ HP laptop with Ryzen7 a little over two years ago, and due to a flaw in the hinge which is now subject to a class action lawsuit, the screen has cracked and it’s mostly unusable. Other purchase haven’t failed quite that dramatically but don’t tend to last as long. On the other hand, my or my partner’s old Macbooks and iPhones are easily seeing 5+ years of use in addition to software updates.

So let me know what’s worked for you!

    • Justin@lemmy.jlh.name
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      Fairphone is also 100% repairable like the framework. 5 year warranty and software support.

      Edit: The rumor is that the Fairphone 5 will be announced next week

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        I would really consider to get a fairphone if they had a smaller variant. Lately I’ve grown tired of only having huge phones and I don’t mind making some hardware sacrifices if I can use it comfortably.

        The Asus Zenfone 10 was a good candidate, but their bootloader unlocking tool is still down, so you may be locked to only 2 years of OS updates

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      It’s preemptive to say Framework can compare - they were founded 3 years ago (2020). 5+ years for OP, but many people have their mac laptops last well over a decade.

      Ultimately there are no proven laptops as good as mac’s build quality; Apple’s competitors go for cheaper prices with windows OS (or very cheap chrome books). Due to a lack of a large market looking for overpriced windows laptops, few if any high build quality win laptops exist.

      It’s too soon to see Framework will actually last to become a true challenger