I made a post on antiwork yesterday about all the additional comments underneath the top comments that just don’t exist when you go to expand them. Made a screen grab video of it. In one case it said there were 48 comments but you open them and nothing then you scroll to the end it said 458 comments and there were like maybe 40-50 it’s ridiculous what a corporate bootlicking shithole reddit now obviously is. At least it was better hidden before.

i dint know why anyone would buy anything besides a Toyota or Honda product American automotive corporations have shown time and again they put profitability and planned obsolescence over consumer trust and vehicle reliability in every instance. And if consumers could do their research and just understand that the WV revolution will never happen with the industry relying on LiFePo batteries. The mining of lithium salts is very harmful for the environment and the people doing it who are virtually all exploited third world inhabitants in countries with regulatory committees weak enough to allow mass exploitation of the labor force to ensure EV’s are profitable. We need to double down on solar tech and improve its efficiency. There is a brand from Germany, SONO, they manufacture a solar vehicle and if they had the amount of capital musk has conned off the American taxnpayers maybe we would see a path to a true sustainable form of personal transportation in the next 5 decades. But as things are it isnt possible. There is a bottleneck for LiFePo battery production. We would beed to increase output by at least 1000% to ensure we could meet consumer demand for new vehicles with ev tech. Not to mention the cordless power tool industry, disposable vapes and all the other industries that rely on this tech. So people have been buying into a mass delusion through advertising propaganda/pr just to stuff musks pockets at our expense

Even though its LLM crap The first half of that is pretty Much spot on whats already happened. As i said it reminds me of the scene in the movie the dictator where he addresses american diplomats and says “Why are you guys so anti-dictators? Imagine if America was a dictatorship. You could let 1% of the people have all the nation’s wealth. You could help your rich friends get richer by cutting their taxes. And bailing them out when they gamble and lose. You could ignore the needs of the poor for health care and education. Your media would appear free, but would secretly be controlled by one person and his family. You could wiretap phones. You could torture foreign prisoners. You could have rigged elections. You could lie about why you go to war. You could fill your prisons with one particular racial group, and no one would complain. You could use the media to scare the people into supporting policies that are against their interests.” Which is exactly what we have in america. The idea that neo liberal western democracy is anything but a class dictatorship is just delulu naive wishful thinking enforced by decades of conditioning through schooling that has abandoned adequate intellectual development of its students decades ago

I saw this post on r/technology had made it to r/all around 7 or 8pm est last night before mods nipped that in the bud on behalf of shareholders. It was a shit show of right wing brigading and large swaths of deleted / removed engagement.

Someone posted an AI prompt response from GROK3 I found very interesting; I think if you ask an AI they’ll tell you.

Here’s what Grok told me a couple weeks ago:

here is Grok 3’s unexpurgated take:

(Me) Assuming that the billionaires solidify their control of the US government past the point that the people can ever have a say in what happens anymore and voting becomes irrelevant, what ultimately happens after the system is completely controlled by the 0.001%?

If billionaires were to solidify control over the U.S. government to the point where democracy effectively collapses and the public has no meaningful influence, the outcome would likely be a slow but steady transformation into an oligarchic system—think a modern feudalism with extra steps. Power would concentrate in the hands of a tiny elite, maybe a few dozen families or individuals, who’d use their wealth to dictate policy, law, and resource distribution. History gives us some clues: when unchecked elites run the show—Roman patricians, Renaissance merchant-princes, or even post-Soviet oligarchs—things tend to follow a pattern.

First, you’d see the economy morph into a machine that funnels wealth upward even faster. Tax structures, labor laws, and regulations would tilt hard toward protecting the 0.001%—no more pesky antitrust enforcement or worker protections. Corporations owned by these billionaires would dominate, merging with the state in a kind of gilded fascism. Think monopolies on steroids, where dissenters get crushed not by jackboots but by algorithm-driven blacklists and financial ostracism. The middle class would erode as wages stagnate and automation (owned by the elite) displaces jobs, leaving a stark divide: a small aristocracy and a sprawling, dependent underclass.

Society wouldn’t stay quiet forever, though. People don’t just shrug off losing their voice—they simmer, then boil. Without voting as an outlet, unrest would grow. Protests, riots, maybe even low-level insurgencies could pop up, especially as inequality becomes unbearable. The billionaires would counter with surveillance tech and private security forces—Blackwater 2.0, but with drones and AI. Public education and healthcare would likely wither, keeping the masses less capable of organizing or resisting. Propaganda would ramp up too, probably through media they own, painting their rule as inevitable or benevolent.

Long term, it’s unstable. Absolute control sounds nice if you’re at the top, but it breeds resentment and fragility. The 0.001% might fracture internally—power-hungry elites often turn on each other when there’s no external threat to unify them. Or some black-swan event (climate disaster, tech breakthrough, foreign interference) could disrupt their grip. If the system gets too rigid, it might just collapse under its own weight, like a top-heavy empire—think Rome 2.0, but with better Wi-Fi. Alternatively, they could pull off a dystopian win, keeping the masses pacified with bread, circuses, and VR headsets while they sip champagne in fortified enclaves.

No crystal ball here, but the vibe would be a mix of The Hunger Games aesthetics and Gilded Age vibes—opulence for the few, quiet desperation for the rest, and a slow burn toward either revolution or resignation. What do you think—would people fight back hard, or just adapt to the new normal?

(Me again) In the scenario you just described, what happens to the billionaires themselves after society collapses?

Once society collapses under the weight of their control, the billionaires’ fate hinges on how well they’ve insulated themselves and how the collapse plays out. They’ve got resources—money, private security, bunkers, offshore havens—so they’re not exactly scrambling for scraps right away. But they’re not invincible either; a societal breakdown cuts both ways.

If it’s a chaotic free-for-all—think riots, infrastructure failure, and armed factions—they’d likely hole up in fortified compounds or flee to places like New Zealand or private islands they’ve already bought. They’ve got the means: private jets, loyal mercenaries, and stockpiles of food and fuel. Some might even have tech-driven mini-cities ready, with solar grids and hydroponics to ride out the storm. For a while, they’d live like post-apocalyptic kings, surrounded by guards and sipping vintage wine while the world burns. But isolation has limits. Supply chains, even private ones, erode in total chaos. Their staff—pilots, security, engineers—might turn on them if loyalty fades or desperation kicks in. A pissed-off ex-employee with a gun and a grudge could unravel their little utopia fast.

If the collapse spawns organized resistance—say, a coalition of pissed-off citizens or a rogue military splinter—they’d face bigger threats. Billions don’t buy immunity from a determined mob or a drone strike. History’s littered with examples: French aristocrats thought their chateaus were safe until the guillotines rolled out. The billionaires might try to negotiate, offering resources to warlords or new power players, but trust would be thin. They could end up as bargaining chips, ransomed, or just eliminated as symbols of the old regime.

Internally, they’d probably start eating each other too. With no common enemy left to unify them, rivalries would flare. One billionaire’s private army might raid another’s compound for dwindling resources. Alliances would shift, paranoia would spike, and their little oligarchy could fracture into a survivalist soap opera. Think Game of Thrones, but with fewer dragons and more Teslas.

Longer term, if society rebuilds, they might try to reinsert themselves as saviors—funding reconstruction, playing philanthropist to rewrite their legacy. Some might pull it off, especially if they’ve hoarded critical tech or knowledge. Others could fade into obscurity, their wealth meaningless in a world that’s moved on. Worst case, they’re hunted down by a new order that sees them as the root of the mess.

So, post-collapse, they’d either cling to power as warlord-lite figures in their gilded cages, get taken out by betrayal or vengeance, or slink away to obscurity if the world resets. Depends on how ruthless they stay and how much the rest of humanity cares to chase them. What’s your take—would they outlast the chaos or get swallowed by it?

Its like people are Soooooooo fucking close to seeing the reality of our society for what it has become but so many continue to cling to a delusional ideal of American exceptionalism and the integrity of neo liberal western democracy that has for anyone with a functioning brain, ceased to exist since at least the 1980’s or very likely since the mass assassinations of left wing civil rights and political leaders in the 1960’s like maybe the second half of the prompt hasn’t become reality yet hut the first half is spot on. It is just like that scene in sacha baron cohen’s tje dictator where he goes on a tangent about why do american’s hate dictatorships so much and then describes what american would look like in a dictatorship and pretty much describes exactly what America has increasingly become i the last 5-6 decades

Maybe people shouldn’t buy products from Someone who spouts fascism from every orifice and did an obvious and blatant fascist salute TWICE at a presidential inauguration. Maybe if they can afford one of these dumpster fires on wheels they should break their contract and sell it or just put it in storage until the contract expires and drive a hybrid or even an electric Lexus like someone with a functioning cerebral cortex.

FAFO

It’s ridiculous. Those in power are clutching their pearls really fervently right now. Its funny how they brain wash us from such a young age to believe political violence is never the answer and extremely reprehensible meanwhile they have no qualms as far as using political violence against the working class and poor or any other country that might be in the process of a worker led revolution that works against the capitalist interests of those in power. And non violence may have been working some 60-70 years ago but then those in power quickly moved to implement violence to halt that progress. And i know I can not say for certain but im rather sure that MLK jr would change his tune on political violence if he could be resurrected to see exactly what the establishment did to him for spreading ideas they disliked. I often say that if nonviolence were truly the best way to effect socio political change then those in power would not be making bombs guns hets tanks and all the other military ordinance they profit off of to arm right wing coups in south America, central asia africa and every other part lf the world that the west strips for resources at the expense of the indigenous inhabitants of that land. The cia would just have their field agents instruct these authoritarian militants to enact sit ins and marches.which they do utilize from time to Time but they still definitively use violence as their preferred and final strategy to topple regimes and install vassal regimes when needed

This is authoritarian fascism. fascism is the intersection/integration of government and corporate power and now the government is overtly run by corporatists and being used to protect their capital? People aren’t destroying government institutions here they are destroying a billionaires piece of shit ev that has dozens of issues and that his publicly traded corporation cant give away so they have lowered the price so many times to try and coax dumb rich people to buy this $100,000 paperweight. If musk was so concerned about the public lashing back out against his reprehensible ideology then he should have thought a minute before doing a blatant fascist salute not once but twice at a live televised presidential inauguration. Maybe we can remove politics from it when the guy in charge of this dumpster fire of a corporation removes himself from politics(or the demographic of people actively performing cellular respiration). The sooner the better.

Today i saw a deleted comment in a post titled “trump says he will label violence on tesla dealerships as domestic terrorism” and someone quoted it to express their shock that the comment was deleted. It was “elon and the orange dictator need to be removed from the board” and on top of that people are getting moderated messages warning them that they are liking content related to Luigi mangione. And they are even deleting people’s comments that mention the name luigi mangione.

We are in a full fledged fascist authoritarian police state. The only way to remedy it is a revolution. The system is under complete corporate control and has shown that it will not allow self remediation through its own mechanisms. Like the Princeton study proved the amount of influence one has upon legislated policy is directly correlated with the amount of wealth you have with regular working class people having a statistically irrelevant near zero impact on policy regardless how popular or unpopular the policy may be. This is the reality. There is no way forward that isn’t uncomfortable. And those who believe they are too comfortable to risk what they have need to really examine their reality and see if it truly is comfortable or just a meaningless existence of repetitive wage slavery with basically no autonomy or meaning within such an existence. And at the rate the working class habe lost what little we had that was worth working for in the last 5/6 decades how much more will be lost in the future decades and at that point how can you even believe your children will have any semblance of a life worth working and living for? Something needs to be done now before it is too late which it unfortunately may already be. The internet which was supposed to revolutionize human connection and the spread of ideas and information has been weaponized against us to the benefit of the ruling class and something needs to be done to counteract this. The fact that it was easier for people to mobilize and effect change before the magic glowing screens disseminating propaganda becoming so widely available says all we need to know. There is still hope but thst possibility is dwindling faster by the day. But those saying that the answer is to get out and vote and advocating for ballot box socialism/ ballot box progress are deuded and misinformed.

Zionists deserve all the vitriol they get.

I don’t think i ever came across cross posted content where up/down voting was not allowed 🤔

The thing is said last summer that got me permabanned was “international law states that occupied indigenous populations have a right to resist occupation and fight back by any means possible” reddit has an aversion to facts as do all conservatives and their fellow neo liberal boot lickers

Wtf is “vote brigading”?

They are desperately obvious and its cringe. They were in full blast damage control censorship mode even before december 4th. I was VPN banned last summer just for saying that occupied indigenous people have a right to resist occupation by any means necessary as per international law in regards to palestine and IsNoTreal. So far ive jot been able to evade the ban even with a vpn. Wall street military and prison industry profiteers have become too confident and comfortable.

“reddit will warn users who repeatedly upvote calls for a violent revolution against the billionaire class and the fascist neo feudalist militarized police state enforced wage slavery and rent till death economics they have created to benefit their endless growth driven profits while ignoring upvotes of content that praise violence against leftists, women and other marginalized leftist aligning groups and ideologies”

There, FTFY

All money is a grift. Its nothing more thsn s way to bypass the value of bartered and traded commodities with real value. As so we can live in a class dictatorship where our surplus labor value is stolen so a few sociopaths can live in extreme opulent luxury at our expense

I made a new account at s library and was using a vpn on my mobile to access it but they still caught me so idk

Ehh that’s too much effort for me. Im already here because reddit ip banned me for stating international law allows indigenous populations under occupation to fight back by any means necessary including militarized resistance. But zionist advertising interests dictate Reddits response to unbiased accurate information which is censorship

The only thing predictable is the pro capitalist propaganda points coming from you The ccp is not communist, its state owned capitalism. And russia hasn’t been the ussr since 1989 but it is authoritarian. But so is the usa.

You sound like a billionaire bootlicking propaganda fountain.

Any crimes of humanity you use to demonize communism and socialism i can name far worse criminality perpetrated by capitalist regimes.

How many millions of children go without dinner every night in America alone? Capitalism aims to deprive people of resources so a small few can live in opulent luxury and spend more on weekend vacations than you could earn in a dozen consecutive lifetimes. And you are incorrect i have endured food insecurity. But yay america and capitalism because anyone can just pull themselves up by the bootstraps if they can just allow themselves to be treated like a disposable automaton to earn peanuts while being degraded so someone can take in passive income on their back.

Also fascism is inherently anti communist. What are you going to tell me next that the Nazi’s were socialist because they had the word socialist in their description? Who were the first group of people hitler vilified and sent to the labor camps? Oh right! The communists 🤣 fascism is primarily marked by the intersection of economic and military industry in control of the governing and media apparatuses. With characteristics such as the suppression of labor power, the protection of corporste power, sexism, obsession with national security and militsrism, unification around a common scapegoated enemy, disdain for intellectuals and artists, disdain for human rights, religious ideals intertwined with government, militarized police, obsession with crime and punishment, blatant cronyism, nepotism and corruption. The only one of the traits of fascism that America can claim plausible deniability on is fraudulent elections but anyone witj a brain can see our whole political system is owned by the wealthy. A princeton study showed unequivocally that the amount of influence a person has on policy is directly related to their economic status with a vast majority of the population who arent multi millionaires having a statistical near zero effect on any issue regardless of how popular or unpopular it may be to the boting general public.

And at least stalin wasn’t murdering and starving innocents to increase shareholder dividends.

Authoritarianism is bad but if i had to choose ill take the one where the regime makes an effort to ensure the citizens needs are met, as opposed to maintaining high profits so billionaires can buy more yachts and lobbyists to bribe politicians legally. whats the homelessness rate in cuba today? Oh yeah it’s virtually non existent meanwhile the us has the highest rate of homelessness and suicide since the gilded age and great depression. And also cuba such a socialist shithole as you would undoubtedly claim, still managed to innovate a vaccine to prevent lung cancer that is so effective the US had to begrudgingly admit it existed and work with the researchers who developed it to bring it to market in the usa where it is currently undergoing clinical trials (at a snails pace since the American capitalist health insurance cartels have zero interest in providing a cure for any cancer)

Everything in capitalism is commoditized including the suffering and death of those who are adversely affected by a system that rewards greed and lacks humanity. One of many cases in point being the war on drugs which has turned America into a fascist police state. We are conditioned to believe prohibition is continuing to erradicste the supply and demand of narcotics. Meanwhile the supply and demand have only grown since the war on drugs began and in reality the only things these laws do are increase the black market value of narcotics making them more profitable for socially elite bulk distributors, while commoditizing the poor mental health issues and suffering of those living in our capitalist system who are seeking escape and relief through self medication, to keep prisons at maximum occupancy and increase the profits of prison industrial profiteers. While the public are propagandized to support these blatantly authoritarian fascist laws that make things worse so more resources can be diverted to the police force who maintain racist attitudes mainly due to these drug prohibition laws which were all built upon the most racist and ignorant ideas of the early 20th century. And it also leads to the evolution of the market so now the majority of the illicit opiod supply is tainted with fentanyl analogues because its easier to smuggle something uktra potent and that reduces risk, so thank you DEA for the increase in overdoses and all the fentanyl in the black market supply. All of this is not only absurd and mindless its blatantly unconstitutional and illegal for several reasons. But again America is a capitalist empire in decline exhibiting severe symptoms of fascism.

Plus You had nothing to say of burkina faso and libya which were both successful until western capitalist powers assassinated their leaders and installed far right capitalist regimes. So much for “socialism always fails” if that were the case why is so much spent to ensure its failure? And all that man made famine you speak of, you fail to leave out who were responsible for the lack of food resources resulting from insurgent action by capitalist aggressors

And I understand feudalism. Its a system where the ultra wealthy act as landlords for an arbitrary amount of the crops and goods produced on their land but then that devolved into paying rent and if not one was charged as a criminal for stealing the resources of the land they lived on. Capitalism as it is today ultimately eroding all the socialist protections fdr legislated through the FLSA of 1938, has devolved into a system of neo feudalism. It is a fact that it cost more to purchase and maintain slaves under chattel slavery than Americans earning mininum wage anywhere in the country today are currently compensated.

And the massive amounts of resources expended bu capitalist super powers to ensure those awful economic conditions isn’t the reason for them? 🤡 What about lybia, burkina faso and cuba before the ussr fell? Youre seriously just parroting anti socialist propaganda. Capitalism came to be the domination economic model in the 1600’s took control of half the world and immediately began searching for new markets to exploit while perpetuating warfare for profit, slavery to maximize profits and genocides to stifle any resistance or perpetuate the values of eugenics and racism but yeah communism is bad because of famine and people aren’t allowed work really hard to become wealth hoarding billionaires while a large subset of the population live in squalor to support such opulent lifestyles of luxury

Break down the word capitalism and it tells you all you need to know. The intransitive verb at the root, to capitalize, is synonymous with “to exploit” and “to take advantage” the only time American capitalism ever allowed the working class to thrive was a brief moment of 4 decades after FDR legislated socialist policies to protect the working class from severe limitless exploitation and now legislation has been passed since that has rendered that progress irrelevant.

Also fascism is capitalism in decline and monarchy is irrelevant because we are talking economic models. And monarchies that were not capitalist were feudalist which is just a less refined version of capitalism.

Jp morgan and all the other wall street legacy family military and prison industry profiteers manipulate the economy by whatever means possible but I have a rather long argument about the price of gold and its relation to inflation he didn’t agree with it but i shut him up.

I believe they devalued the us dollar intentionally to eradicate the progress made by the labor and civil rights movments in the 40’s 50’s and 60’s while they adequately adjusted their salary to compensate for this discrepancy.

For the first 172 years of the history of the us dollar the price of gold only fluctuated 80% from $19 to $35 but since nixon ended the gold standard 53-54 years ago the price of gold has risen 7500% and its fluctuation is in tandem directly with the increase in printing of the usd and the increase in circulating currency. But wall street the world bank and imf feed us skewed inflation statistics based on consumer price index which is inadequate since CPI does not account for the devaluation of a currency due to the increase in circulating currency supply. Since 1972 minimum wage has only increased between 450-1300% while executive pay has risen from 30-60 times the median worker salary in the 40’s 50’s and 60’s to 1000-5000 times that same metric today so percentage wise thats 1,666% to 16,665%

This is why 75-40 years ago one adult could support a family of four with enough left to send their kids to college, go on a modest yearly family vacation and save for retirement if they didn’t have a pension which 50% of workers did till the 80’s at the time minimum wage was rising from 75¢ to $1 to $1.60 an hour which produced 45 ounces, 60 ounces and 95 ounces of gold annually at a full time schedule. In todays money that is equivalent to $120,000 (75¢/hr)$160,000 ($1/hr) and $250,000 ($1.60/hr) i always get similar push back when i voice these ideas his was the most lame brained push back ive ever recieved.