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  • douglasg14b@lemmy.worldtoSelfhosted@lemmy.worldMozilla grants Ente $100k
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    1 month ago

    The issue here is that these are solvable problems, release compat isn’t a new problem. It’s just a problem that takes dedicated effort to solve for, just like any other feature.

    This is something FOSS apps tend to lack simply due to the nature of how contributions tend to work for free software. Which is an unfortunate reality, but a reality none the less.


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    People really underestimate the value of stability and predictability.

    There are some amazing FOSS projects out there ran by folks who don’t give a crap about stability or the art of user experience. It holds them back, and unfortunately helps drive a fragmented ecosystem where we get 2,3,5 major projects all trying to do the same thing.


  • Because the majority of my traffic and services are internal with internal DNS? And I want valid HTTPS certs for them, without exposing my IP in the DNS for those A records.

    If I don’t care about leaking my IP in my a records then this is pretty easy. However I don’t want to do this for various reasons. One of those being that I engage in security related activities and have no desire to put myself at risk by leaking.

    Even services that I exposed to the internet I still don’t want to have my local network traffic go to the internet and back when there is no need for that. SSL termination at my own internal proxy solves that problem.

    I now have this working by using the cloudflare DNS ACME challenge. Those services which I exposed to the internet cloudflare is providing https termination for, cloudflare is then communicating with my proxy which also provides https termination. My internal communication with those services is terminated at my proxy.



  • I stated in the OP that cloudflair HTTPS is off :/

    I’m not using cloudflare for the certificate. I also can’t use the cloud for certificate anyways for internal services through a loopback.

    Similarly you can have SSL termination at multiple layers. That’s works I have services that proxy through multiple SSL terminations. The issue that I’m having is that the ACME challenge seems to be having issues, these issues are documented and explained in various GitHub threads, however the set of solutions are seemingly different and convoluted for different environments.

    This is why I’m asking this question here after having done a reasonable amount of research and trial and error.


  • I am doing SSL termination at the handoff which is the caddy proxy. My internal servers have their SSL terminated at caddy, my traffic does not go to the internet… It loops back from my router to my internal Network.

    However DNS still needs to have subdomains in order to get those certificates, this cloudflair DNS. I do not want my IP to be associated with the subdomains, thus exposing it, therefore cloudflair proxy.

    You’re seeing the errors because the proxy backend is being told to speak HTTPS with Caddy, and it doesn’t work like that.

    You can have SSL termination at multiple points. Cloudflare can do SSL termination and Cloudflair can also connect to your proxy which also has SSL termination. This is allowed, this works, I have services that do this already. You can have SSL termination at every hop if you want, with different certificates.

    That said, I have cloudflair SSL off, as stated in the OP. Cloudflare is not providing a cert, nor is it trying to communicate with my proxy via HTTPS.

    Contrary to your statement about this not working that way, cloudflair has no issues proxying to my proxy where I already have valid certs. Or even self signed ones, or even no certs. The only thing that doesn’t work is the ACME challenge…


    Edit: I have now solved this by using Cloudflair DNS ACME challenge. Cloudflair SSL turned back on. Everything works as expected now, I can have external clients terminate SSL at cloudflair, cloudflair communicate with my proxy through HTTPS, and have internal clients terminate SSL at caddy.







  • This is exactly it. Reddit right now is what our society is like. This is the lowest common denominator.

    EVERY forum and community online will always approach the lowest common denominator as it’s size grows. This has always been the case on reddit, where niche communities lose their niche to the lowest common denominator.

    The only way to avoid this is active moderation, clear quality expectations, and a strong stance on what does and does not belong in a community.


  • Another risk with Monitor, which may get better with time. Is that FOSS rust projects have a tendency to slow down or even stall due to the time cost of writing features, and the very small dev community available to pick up slack when original creators/maintainers drop off, burn out, or get too busy with life.

    To be clear: I have nothing against rust. It’s a fantastic language filling in a crucial gap that’s existed for decades. However, it’s I’ll suited for app development, that’s just not it’s strength.




  • They usually do yes however it’s all about prioritization.

    You may have hundreds or thousands or open requests and issues.

    With tens of thousands of closed issues that were either not reproducible, not actually problems, or largely indecipherable.

    There’s usually a feature roadmap which is where most of the development money and time is spent. If it’s an older business application then certain bugs might easily take weeks to find, fix, test, validate, go through user acceptance, A/B test, and then deploy. But fixing is expensive work, so if the bug isn’t severe it’s usually deprioritized next to higher priority work.


  • I thought I explained that pretty well no?

    If you had a grain of rice that tasted unimaginably, unmitigably, good. The highest quality grain of rice ever seen in the world, in all of history.

    It will not change the flavor of 30k bowls of rice.

    We’re talking an absolutely tiny amount of users here. And we shouldn’t delude ourselves over it, circle jerking for being the “higher society”. Reddit didn’t change because we left, the number of users on Reddit change more on a daily basis than 5 Lemmy’s.


    That said, the smaller niche subs definitely saw some hits. I won’t deny that. However, by definition, a small number of users leaving from small subs isn’t a “gotcha” moment for what I’ve stated. That’s is, almost by definition, what would be expected.

    The discussions here are of higher quality for sure. But you’ll still notice that in many threads it’s almost indistinguishable from Reddit in many ways.