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If you think BSDs are devoid of drama you’re in for a cold shower…

Switch to OpenBSD if you have to, at least the drama there is super funny

Ah yes, just like that time when Mandrake kernels burned the cd drives…

https://lwn.net/Articles/55815/

That’s by no means a routine upgrade though, the guy just “upgraded to” backports which you’re not even supposed to do. Not comparable to the soothingly boring apt upgrade of Debian stable.

TBH I don’t even remember the last time some actually important bug came out on the kernel, long gone are the days of ptrace-kmod.c and hatorihanzo.c

If you haven’t special requirements then just use Debian stable, and never be worried about an update again.

IDK man, I’ve had rather poor experience with extensions. At least in gnome they pretty much filled in for some feature that should have been there but it wasn’t hip enough for GNOME (ie systray).

Ever since gnome 3 came out I found myself time and time again in the loop where something is missing, I build myself some smorgasbord of extensions to make the experience the way I want it, then a new gnome minor is released and some of those extensions are now abandoned / incompatible with others / suddenly buggy / behaving differently so I have to start over. It’s not very different in kde, extensions get abandoned and break in there too, but I never had to have more than two at a time.

When it comes to DEs I’ve learned over the years to stick to the core as much as possible because extensions are just not reliable, which is also the reason why I don’t use gnome anymore.

I don’t think the analogy with IDEs really holds: language extensions in major IDEs are usually maintained with some degree of professionalism, for example the Ansible extension for vscode is maintained by Red Hat. It’s a very different ecosystem from the one made of pet projects started by people who one time felt something was amiss in their DE, and pray the gods they still have that opinion and care enough.

Edit: just to be clear I’m not dunking on this extension or extensions in general, I’m just explaining why somebody would want to avoid relying on them too much

I’m considering it too and I don’t even like survival or horror games, let alone the two.

Best of luck my friend

🤷‍♀️ I was using mutt for both smtp and imap in 2002, don’t know how long before that it worked — but at least since then.

… what? mutt can talk imap and smtp natively, I don’t know what else you need to qualify as an “email client”

That’s actually a good point. I’m a TUI guy as much as the next one but I normally use full screen terminal and tmux instead of larping the 90s.

Deeply respect the hustle - I was also X-free in the early 00s - but I wonder what is the advantage of going raw tty instead of full screen terminal in a wm

Why alpine instead of mutt? It must be some 20 years since I least heard about pine or any of its forks

I mean I guess that’s sound advice if you don’t need to, I don’t know, print?

This but unironically. Can’t remember one time when I needed or even thought about using a cable in my iPhone tenure.

Yes but 99.9% of users don’t care about any of that, that’s what others were saying in this conversation.

Just to bring my personal pov: I’m a tech guy and I couldn’t care less about any of those features. My phone is an appliance like my dishwasher, i only need it to do well the few things it does for me and the iPhone does them incredibly well. Productivity work and fun is done on real computers. I don’t care if android phones can purr or do somersaults.

If you like to do complicated stuff on your phone then those things matter to you and you will deem iOS inferior, and that’s fine. But realise you are planets away from the average user.

You are technically correct (I know) but I would argue that distros that come with a certain DE usually have their experience built into it. Sure you can install gnome in kde neon but don’t expect anything to work, if it does it’s mostly by accident.

This is true for distros that cater to “simple” users that want to install and be productive of course, not for those like Debian or arch which cater to users who want to build their own experience.

Apple and wait for Asahi Linux to finish their driver support 🫠 don’t know what to tell you man.

I have never tried framework laptops - maybe they’re glorious, maybe they’re junk - but of all the laptops I tried Apple are the only decent ones hardware-wise (and software-wise too if you like osx).

I don’t know who else makes decent laptops nowadays, but Lenovo isn’t it, and most likely won’t be.

Good luck hoping for anything about Lenovo, they’ve gone down and down the shitter ever since they “split” from IBM.

No I don’t own a framework nor plan to do so, I’m just an average IT guy who is forced to choose between Lenovo and Mac to work, and after the third garbage laptop in a row bit the bullet and got the Mac. I also own an x200 and a t430 that i was in love with - nothing to do with the present day latrines masquerading as computers.

Screw Lenovo really. Hope for some decent competition to framework (I hope for that too, they are currently the only ones in that niche) but don’t hope for it from them.