• Gabu@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    Communism starves our human impulses to succeed and grow

    Nothing about communism forces human impulses to be ignored, unless you mean the impulses we already suppress as sentient beings, such as fucking everything that moves or eating until we literally die.

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      We are socially competitive animals, just as you can observe in other evolutionarily programmed creatures. We compare ourselves to others, we want to impress mates, etc.

      Equality of economic outcome regardless of effort goes against that, which is probably necessary on a planet of finite resources and the scale of our waste, but it does go against that large aspect of our nature.

      For the record, I’m probably closer to you ideologically than you think. I think unfettered capitalism does more damage to humanity and the planet than communism ever could, but if you think communism lacks any drawbacks and is perfect, you are mistaken.

      There is no such thing as perfection, especially any construct made by mankind. That’s coming from someone who is all for going Old School French on Wall Street and socializing entire economic sectors for the good of the citizenry.

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        We are socially competitive animals, just as you can observe in other evolutionarily programmed creatures. We compare ourselves to others, we want to impress mates, etc.

        All of which can be achieved in a communist system, only instead of “look at my huge paycheck”, it’d be “look at all these skills I’ve acquired thanks to free public education and more free time”. People would stop mindlessly showing off innane manufactured waste and start actually acquire useful knowledge.

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          Man you’re naive…you really think people are going to go around busting their asses to study, only to be rewarded with I have skills that allow me to do even harder mental tasks for the same physical rewards as someone who gets the same free time and paycheck and house and car as I do…

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            Your inability to imagine only reveals how pathetically greedy and underdeveloped you are.

            I hope one day you develop an actual skill so you too can know the joys of not being a waste of oxygen.

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              You mean my inability to be naive… you’re the type of tankie who would want to be in a position of power while not breaking sweat while the rest toiled away doing the hard manual labor…

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                Wow, you’re really so pathetically lazy you think I’m a tankie!? Bahahahahaha

                Good job proving to us that you are indeed too stupid to learn on your own.

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                  You wanting to be able to study while everyone else slaves away and you both get the same benefits is tankie bullshit. Very very few people will work hard labor for no benefit, especially if those who are just sitting around learning make the same as them.

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            I’m not naïve, it’s just that you are a bad person whose moral code can’t fathom working not for oneself, but for the betterment of the collective.

            I already do just that, by the way - study for the sake of knowledge, not for increasing my capital.

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              Lol I run a equine and livestock rescue, and pay for peoples animals vet bills…out of my own pocket…the fuck are you to tell me my moral code is broken… I’m not the one advocating for communism…which always ends in dictatorship and death from those who want to keep it in place…naa you’re absolutely naive.

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                I run a equine and livestock rescue, and pay for peoples animals vet bills…out of my own pocket…

                Which doesn’t preclude you being a bad person. Hitler was very much in favor of minimizing pollution and afforestation, for instance. I.E. Non Sequitur, doing a good thing doesn’t by itself make you a good person.

                the fuck are you to tell me my moral code is broken…

                A human being capable of rational though, exactly like you - only I stopped to think about this issue in particular, and you haven’t, choosing to reply emotionally instead.

                which always ends in dictatorship and death from those who want to keep it in place

                False, observably. In fact, you’re arguing from the position of proving a positive statement from a negative propostion, which is a fallacy.

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                  Did you just compare me to hitler? Lol fucking tankies…ok stalin I think we’re done here…

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                    I offered an example. Unfortunately, you seem unable to think rationally.