• bequirtle@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I don’t want my tax money incentivizing some rich asshole to buy an EV

    I mean… why not? I’d like if every rich guy had an EV instead of ICE. Less pollution is less pollution

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      1 day ago

      They have the money to buy an EV, rich people don’t need my tax money to subsidize their purchase. If the EV is that much less appealing than an ice car, then the EV is not ready for market yet! Subsidizing their purchase of a quasi luxury barge that happens to be electric is just giving money to the elite class on both ends at the expense of the proletariat. Encourage the production of affordable, cheap even EVs and infrastructure not 50k+ leather wrapped battery packs on tires lol

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        1 day ago

        “rich people” in your mind is who, exactly? Here in Canada only cars below a certain MSRP qualify for subsidies, so “luxury barges” are not subsidized. Also, a $50K car is not luxury anymore, have you seen car prices recently? New ICE cars are expensive as hell too!

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          1 day ago

          I’m talking about people making into the 6 figures, they don’t need help from subsidies to buy cars. That’s just giving well to do people money to give to rich corpos 🤷‍♂️ but ur absolutely right all new cars are getting too damned expensive!

          • Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            12 minutes ago

            Depends where you live, 6 figures is the minimum in some places for single income earners let alone households. For example im working for a company that has a lot going on in Boston, the only way the math maths for me to live there, within 30 minutes commute is about 200k a year, budgeting about $600 a month for a car payment. And about 5-6k in mortgage. Plus utilities are insane so there goes another 500-600 a month. (Probably depends a bit on neighborhood, but thats what some of my coworkers were complaiming about) and food is about 50-60% more expensive my spouse covers that so not sure the cost, id guess for the 3 of us round about another 600-700 in groceries plus say another 200 or so for eating out, so yeah… 6 figures doesnt mean much in terms of real purchasing power the rest going into repairs for cars, home stuff thats inevitably broken in those 70+ yr old houses selling for over a mil. Thats the napkin math, exact math, and budgeting for things like PCs, savings, etc… not included.

            But point being 6 figures doesnt mean well off depending on where that 6 figures is being made. Sure id live like a walking middle age crisis on 100K in the middle of nowhere, but middle of nowhere isnt going to be offering 100k

          • AA5B@lemmy.world
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            9 hours ago

            They do if you want to accelerate adoption. People who can afford to pay more have the same disincentives as you do. Why should they pay more? We know EVs are a huge improvement and worth it when the climate is considered, so need to encourage faster adoption.

            Think of it more as exploiting them. Pay a little money for some rich assholeto spend more establishing the market for you. The biggest impediment to lower cost is scale: as long as legacy manufacturers can’t scale production they can’t lower prices enough to establish the market. Incentives are the way out