Yes, so wouldnt shutting them down be good? We dont need slaughterhouses. I get meat "isnt going away" but if we should shut down facilities that operate with human cruelty.
No. They're saying that slaughter houses don't appear to be going away in the near future since there is a still a fervent demand for meat, so the answer of "just shut them down" isn't a valid solution yet. They should be removed of human cruelty until we can fully remove them.
Assuming you aren't being purposefully obtuse, the answer is to make them safe and suitable environments for people to work in. You can figure out a way to punish the company who is creating these conditions, but for the time being, the answer is to make them reasonable to work in.
It's obtuse because it's not like another one is going to crop up in the same town in the same day to give the workers jobs, nor is it going to solve the issue of regulating the industry properly. The people enforcing the policies need teeth, and those teeth should be able to bite at the people causing these conditions. Places get like this because 3rd party inspection is underfunded and underpowered. Shutting a place down means it cuts into profits while potentially cutting off workers' incomes. It doesn't mean the owners or board get significantly impacted.
Clarifying question, are you saying shutting down slaughter houses is human cruelty?
No. Having inhumane conditions for the workers is cruelty.
Yes, so wouldnt shutting them down be good? We dont need slaughterhouses. I get meat "isnt going away" but if we should shut down facilities that operate with human cruelty.
No. They're saying that slaughter houses don't appear to be going away in the near future since there is a still a fervent demand for meat, so the answer of "just shut them down" isn't a valid solution yet. They should be removed of human cruelty until we can fully remove them.
So the answer provided is no answer at all? We need to close any factory that operates with cruelty. There is no acception to be made.
Assuming you aren't being purposefully obtuse, the answer is to make them safe and suitable environments for people to work in. You can figure out a way to punish the company who is creating these conditions, but for the time being, the answer is to make them reasonable to work in.
Im not sure how saying "we need to shut down a factory that operates with human suffering" is obtuse.
It's obtuse because it's not like another one is going to crop up in the same town in the same day to give the workers jobs, nor is it going to solve the issue of regulating the industry properly. The people enforcing the policies need teeth, and those teeth should be able to bite at the people causing these conditions. Places get like this because 3rd party inspection is underfunded and underpowered. Shutting a place down means it cuts into profits while potentially cutting off workers' incomes. It doesn't mean the owners or board get significantly impacted.