This. This is what really pissed me off about Ubuntu. I even uninstalled (or thought I did) the entire snapd system. But then I went to install something and…it reinstalled snapd. 🤦
So I moved to Linux Mint which was an excellent experience. And just the other day I replaced that with LMDE 6 (Linux Mint Debian Edition) and I couldn't be happier.
It's the ideal distro for anyone who wants apt but not Ubuntu and doesn't want the pain of manually installing Debian.
I did a debian install this weekend, and it seemed pretty mild. It asked if I wanted separate partitions for /tmp and /home and if I wanted to encrypt my lvm. Then I chose my desktop environment from a list and that was it. It even installed grub for me.
Yes Debian 12 is easier than Debian has ever been. But your may still need to install the CUPS printing system manually, your machine may not recognise that you've attached a printer whereas on Mint it will, and it will install the driver.
On Debian you'll probably have to manually install any proprietary drivers (eg WiFi) whereas LMDE did this for me automatically.
Plus the desktop will be very bland on Debian and you'll need to take the time to obtain themes, icons etc and make it look nice. Whereas with LMDE they've already customised Cinnamon for you, saving lots of time.
Either way is fine but Debian will need more time to set up and LMDE is ready out of the box
Same, I feel at home in the Cinnamon DE and no matter how tech savvy I am, the GUI software installer is so much more convenient than using the terminal
Canonical's changes to apt could be considered malicious in and of themselves because it installs from a source you didn't request for, sure seems malicious to me.
Good thing I can just install applications from
apt
instead…user@pc:~$: sudo apt install app The following additional packages will be installed: snapd
…oh.
This. This is what really pissed me off about Ubuntu. I even uninstalled (or thought I did) the entire snapd system. But then I went to install something and…it reinstalled snapd. 🤦
So I moved to Linux Mint which was an excellent experience. And just the other day I replaced that with LMDE 6 (Linux Mint Debian Edition) and I couldn't be happier.
It's the ideal distro for anyone who wants apt but not Ubuntu and doesn't want the pain of manually installing Debian.
I did a debian install this weekend, and it seemed pretty mild. It asked if I wanted separate partitions for /tmp and /home and if I wanted to encrypt my lvm. Then I chose my desktop environment from a list and that was it. It even installed grub for me.
Yes Debian 12 is easier than Debian has ever been. But your may still need to install the CUPS printing system manually, your machine may not recognise that you've attached a printer whereas on Mint it will, and it will install the driver.
On Debian you'll probably have to manually install any proprietary drivers (eg WiFi) whereas LMDE did this for me automatically.
Plus the desktop will be very bland on Debian and you'll need to take the time to obtain themes, icons etc and make it look nice. Whereas with LMDE they've already customised Cinnamon for you, saving lots of time.
Either way is fine but Debian will need more time to set up and LMDE is ready out of the box
Just use Fedora
No way. That's another Corporation backed distro. Most of the Devs are also Red Hat employees
That might not be true any more. Red Hat has made some interesting decisions lately.
DNF is pretty good, snap i wouldn't touch with a 100 meter pole
The reason why I'll switch to Debian soon.
IMO Linux Mint is a great replacement, too, although it does not come with the default-Gnome desktop layout
I always find myself going back to Mint.
Same, I feel at home in the Cinnamon DE and no matter how tech savvy I am, the GUI software installer is so much more convenient than using the terminal
Yea, not with
firefox
, at least not without switching to some third party repo.Canonical's changes to apt could be considered malicious in and of themselves because it installs from a source you didn't request for, sure seems malicious to me.
Agreed. Switching out .deb packages in the package manager for snap stubs was a bridge too far, and I went back to Debian.