Truth is, both have it. Illegal immigrants cost a lot of money, the jobless (those who are too lazy to work, not the unfortunate ones) getting a lot of welfare and health care costs a lot of money, and the super rich not paying taxes and earning ridiculous and unethical amount of money also costs a lot of money. The most suffering people are people working hard every day, being able to afford less and less. But those are the people running the countries. They should be the ones having a sufficient amount of wealth. Now keep downvoting me for not endlessly repeating your far left propaganda in this echo chamber.
Please, do enlighten us on how the homeless and jobless cost a lot of money and then show us how much this impacts the national debt? You can then show us how much spending on those elements compares to other spending such as oh I don’t know military budgets. While you’re at it, why don’t you contextualize that in the case of currency sovereignty, and through modern monetary theory? You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. You think national debt works like debt works for you and I but it doesn’t. If you don’t believe me how about listening to the the words of Dick Cheney - “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter”. It’s why the republicans present themselves as the ‘party of fiscal responsibility’ all the while running up record levels of national debt every time they are in power.
“Now keep downvoting for sharing my ignorant, hateful and biggoted views. Gosh, one cannot be a bigot without being downvoted these days, specially on leftists communities. What happened to the good old days when one could be a bigot and hate on immigrants all day long without being called out for it!”
“Hmm, candles cost me 1500$ a month. But on the other hand, I could save 200$ a month if I reduced my groceries. I need to save 1000$, clearly I’ll just stop buying groceries” that’s your solution lol
Costs associated with illegal immigration aren’t really all that clear cut, from what I’ve seen. Undocumented immigrants generate a lot of revenue and economic activity and pay a lot in taxes while not being able to use most government services.
The major drag on revenues that I was able to find is on state/local governments that fund education for undocumented children, which should probably be remedied with more federal funding to offset.
The phrase “a lot of money” means two very different things here. The difference in scale between illegal immigrants and the jobless, and the oligarchs, is so many orders of magnitude that’s the difference between them and you is near nothing. Billionaires are not just a little bit richer than you, they have more hoarded than you will make in your lifetime, while illegal immigrants and jobless are more than likely worse off than you and if they’re not you should be shouting to improve your lot not shouting to worsen theirs
A quick google search shows that the total the UK spent on unemployment benefits last year was £1,860,000,000, and on illegal immigration cost £3,000,000,000. Meanwhile Rishi Sunak (our prime minister) and his wife are worth about £1,200,000,000 between them. The median net worth in the UK is apparently £302,500 - that means Sunak and his wife have NEARLY FOUR THOUSAND TIMES more money than most people in the UK, or, if you subtract one from the other, about £1,200,000,000 more money than the average UK household. The Sunak family could literally count most net worth as a rounding error!
Scale on that… well… scale is hard for humans to grasp, but it really does matter in this case
Now I’m not saying he should pay for all of it personally, but he should certainly stop making a song and dance about it and pay his own fair share! The average UK household paid about £55,641 in tax last year. Rishi Sunak pair £1,900,000. Yes that’s more but it’s only 34 times more. Lets be generous and assume that his wife paid twice as much so it;s 100 times more (she doesn’t, she’s officially non-domiciled and therefore pays about £30,000 to avoid paying UK tax of potentially £20,000,000 in tax), that’s still about 2.5% percent of the average taxation as a percentage of net worth.
Truth is, both have it. Illegal immigrants cost a lot of money, the jobless (those who are too lazy to work, not the unfortunate ones) getting a lot of welfare and health care costs a lot of money, and the super rich not paying taxes and earning ridiculous and unethical amount of money also costs a lot of money. The most suffering people are people working hard every day, being able to afford less and less. But those are the people running the countries. They should be the ones having a sufficient amount of wealth. Now keep downvoting me for not endlessly repeating your far left propaganda in this echo chamber.
What no understanding of the necessity of the surplus army of labor under capitalism does to a mfer.
This didn’t take long to draw in a bootlicker.
Please, do enlighten us on how the homeless and jobless cost a lot of money and then show us how much this impacts the national debt? You can then show us how much spending on those elements compares to other spending such as oh I don’t know military budgets. While you’re at it, why don’t you contextualize that in the case of currency sovereignty, and through modern monetary theory? You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. You think national debt works like debt works for you and I but it doesn’t. If you don’t believe me how about listening to the the words of Dick Cheney - “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter”. It’s why the republicans present themselves as the ‘party of fiscal responsibility’ all the while running up record levels of national debt every time they are in power.
Ok this is suddenly very us-centric again, thinking that the USA is the world
Everything looks far-left when you’re listing off far-right views.
“Now keep downvoting for sharing my ignorant, hateful and biggoted views. Gosh, one cannot be a bigot without being downvoted these days, specially on leftists communities. What happened to the good old days when one could be a bigot and hate on immigrants all day long without being called out for it!”
You could have literal millions more immigrants or social welfare recipients, tax the rich properly, and be able to afford it.
You have no idea how to balance a budget.
“Hmm, candles cost me 1500$ a month. But on the other hand, I could save 200$ a month if I reduced my groceries. I need to save 1000$, clearly I’ll just stop buying groceries” that’s your solution lol
Costs associated with illegal immigration aren’t really all that clear cut, from what I’ve seen. Undocumented immigrants generate a lot of revenue and economic activity and pay a lot in taxes while not being able to use most government services.
The major drag on revenues that I was able to find is on state/local governments that fund education for undocumented children, which should probably be remedied with more federal funding to offset.
Tons of datapoints cited at the Wikipedia page on the subject
Oh yes I can see how rich Lampedusa is becoming right now with all the illegal immigration there.
So did you have any data to provide orrrr
The phrase “a lot of money” means two very different things here. The difference in scale between illegal immigrants and the jobless, and the oligarchs, is so many orders of magnitude that’s the difference between them and you is near nothing. Billionaires are not just a little bit richer than you, they have more hoarded than you will make in your lifetime, while illegal immigrants and jobless are more than likely worse off than you and if they’re not you should be shouting to improve your lot not shouting to worsen theirs
A quick google search shows that the total the UK spent on unemployment benefits last year was £1,860,000,000, and on illegal immigration cost £3,000,000,000. Meanwhile Rishi Sunak (our prime minister) and his wife are worth about £1,200,000,000 between them. The median net worth in the UK is apparently £302,500 - that means Sunak and his wife have NEARLY FOUR THOUSAND TIMES more money than most people in the UK, or, if you subtract one from the other, about £1,200,000,000 more money than the average UK household. The Sunak family could literally count most net worth as a rounding error!
Scale on that… well… scale is hard for humans to grasp, but it really does matter in this case
Now I’m not saying he should pay for all of it personally, but he should certainly stop making a song and dance about it and pay his own fair share! The average UK household paid about £55,641 in tax last year. Rishi Sunak pair £1,900,000. Yes that’s more but it’s only 34 times more. Lets be generous and assume that his wife paid twice as much so it;s 100 times more (she doesn’t, she’s officially non-domiciled and therefore pays about £30,000 to avoid paying UK tax of potentially £20,000,000 in tax), that’s still about 2.5% percent of the average taxation as a percentage of net worth.
This should make you angry