I can understand why a lot of people would want to just move on but Reddit lost me entirely when spez accused the creator of Apollo of trying to blackmail him.
It was proven false then spez doubled-down on the lie. That, in my opinion, is much worse than the API changes because 1 is a company’s choice, no matter how bad, and the other may as well be a crime.
That massive red flag should be impossible to ignore.
Non-US citizens can sue within the US the same as any US citizen can. It’s the same rules where first standing has to be proven and go from there.
An example of this playing out was when Elon falsely called that submarine British guy living in Thailand a pedo on Twitter (more than once actually). He was able to sue Elon in US courts (I believe he lost that case for some BS reason or another, but the point is it can be done).
So I think the issue here is with the US. The evidence disproving the blackmail was in the form of a recorded phone call. In Canada that is perfectly legal but in the US there needs to be consent or it’s inadmissible in court.
I’d provide links but I don’t have time at the moment and honestly don’t want to go back to Reddit to find them but the main post was on the Apollo subreddit. If it still exists it shouldn’t be difficult to find. It even included full downloads of the phone call.
Edit: worth saying I don’t believe the creator of Apollo intends to sue so this is all hypothetical on our behalf.
In the united states as far as I understand federal law says all you need is one party consent so as long as one person on the call consents to being recorded it’s fully allowed. Unless you aren’t part of the conversation it would be fully legal and allowed to be evidence. I’m not super familiar with this blackmail case but majority of the states and federally it would be completely legal to record conversations and use them in court as long as one person consented to recording
I can understand why a lot of people would want to just move on but Reddit lost me entirely when spez accused the creator of Apollo of trying to blackmail him.
It was proven false then spez doubled-down on the lie. That, in my opinion, is much worse than the API changes because 1 is a company’s choice, no matter how bad, and the other may as well be a crime.
That massive red flag should be impossible to ignore.
It was a crime. Defamation. Though I don’t know how that plays out internationally, spez definitely committed a (very difficult to prove) crime.
Non-US citizens can sue within the US the same as any US citizen can. It’s the same rules where first standing has to be proven and go from there.
An example of this playing out was when Elon falsely called that submarine British guy living in Thailand a pedo on Twitter (more than once actually). He was able to sue Elon in US courts (I believe he lost that case for some BS reason or another, but the point is it can be done).
So I think the issue here is with the US. The evidence disproving the blackmail was in the form of a recorded phone call. In Canada that is perfectly legal but in the US there needs to be consent or it’s inadmissible in court.
I’d provide links but I don’t have time at the moment and honestly don’t want to go back to Reddit to find them but the main post was on the Apollo subreddit. If it still exists it shouldn’t be difficult to find. It even included full downloads of the phone call.
Edit: worth saying I don’t believe the creator of Apollo intends to sue so this is all hypothetical on our behalf.
In the united states as far as I understand federal law says all you need is one party consent so as long as one person on the call consents to being recorded it’s fully allowed. Unless you aren’t part of the conversation it would be fully legal and allowed to be evidence. I’m not super familiar with this blackmail case but majority of the states and federally it would be completely legal to record conversations and use them in court as long as one person consented to recording