Back?
What you mean back on the menu?
Pretty much genocide is what Israelis were doing the entire time. Now it's gonna be under the guise of a war. I feel bad for Palestinian civilians.
Setting up settlements on the westbank would be something you could consider genocide. Yet, especially Isreal probably knows a thing or two about genocide, considering both their ancient and recent history.
Their rough history and neighborhood does in no way justify the things they are doing but it very well explains them. No idea what Palestine was thinking though. Things are going to be ugly for them, like Sodom and Gomorrah getting doused in flames levels of ugly…
Hamas != Palestinians
I think it's very important to make that distinction.
Hamas wasn't thinking. Their shitty extremist ideology makes them believe that blowing themselves up will secure a place in heaven with Allah. They are delusional fanatics.
So Israel != IDF? I mean you're right but I thought sticking to one frame of reference (country) might be best when the thread was about them.
More like Israel != All Jews. Government obviously supports and orders the IDF around so they are as guilty as they are.
Yeah but then you'd be looking at the Israeli government - more specifically the government of Netanjahu - not Israel. The people are pretty divided about the settlement stuff and the IDF had a hard time getting new people into their ranks recently.
You could also argue that most Palestinians support Hamas, and most support armed conflict against Israel: "53% of Palestinians believe Hamas is 'most deserving of representing and leading the Palestinian people,'"
https://apnews.com/article/hamas-middle-east-science-32095d8e1323fc1cad819c34da08fd87
What's more, 60% of Palestinians apparently are favourable to armed conflict with Israel.
https://www.jns.org/poll-paradigm-shift-among-palestinians-as-they-throw-support-behind-hamas/
Whether this includes murdering babies and party-goers, the poll doesn't say.
You understand the fact that Hamas also suppresses and silences any opposition in Gaza, right? It's like saying most average Russians support the war because the statistics say so.
Providing such statistics as you have without this context is lying.
Not to mention, Hamas has not been voted in since 2014. In the votes that were supposed to happen, Hamas looked to lose, so they decided not to hold the vote at all.
I define lying differently, but I admit you have a point.
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The no state solution is the only solution.
so like, nuke the world and start over? I'd be down for that
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Just kill politicians in general
As opposed to previously, when Israel respected Palestinians and their borders.
This is a geopolitical version of "I'm not touching you" that involves sniping the limbs off of children.
It is antisemitic (under the IHRA definition) to suggest that Israel would commit war crimes
I just read it. Which part exactly (please quote) do you think supports what you claimed?
Here's the link to the definition, which includes some examples: What is antisemitism? About the IHRA non-legally binding working definition of antisemitism
I'll make it even easier. Here is the full text of the definition:
Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.
I think we can still point out israeli war crimes without being called antisemitic under that definition.
Being critical of the Israeli State and IDF is actually a very mainstream, well-accepted opinions in my experience. For instance Netanyahu's fascistic bullshit is widely criticized, even within Israel.
However, Hamas apology or antisemitic remarks are not acceptable; so whenever someone says "we can't even criticize Israel!! Freedom of speech!!1!!", I strongly suspect that they've done either of these things and got a righteous clapback.
But they literally do, it’s the middle east everyone commits warcrimes
But they literally do, it’s the middle east everyone commits warcrimes
We are at the point where most of the world wants to burn down "Palestine" to the ground.
I think you misspelled "Russia".
Eh they'll burn themselves to the ground soon…
Both is good.
